Life imitates The Big Lebowski

If you're racist, you might want to note the race and gender of the cops.

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[jimmyjoints]

shaneequa, chill baby!!!

[ROX ONE]

lol.. no 'clip sent to me by neighborhood (white) rapper, ROX ONE??'

[Bol]

I used a different clip, but I kept your superfluous comment wrt the identity of the cops.

[ROX ONE]

...fair enough...

[i Fux aka Etheraldinho aka Farouq Obama aka Encyclopedia Brown aka Joyous Mcfly aka Fly Mcbride aka]

*peels Mango*
*takes bite*
*clicks on video*
*mango juices exude from nose and mouth down to chin*

That Quadrapalegic(sp?) really lost on that, LMAO at the cop thinking dude was faking it. Now in my life I have heard of niggas faking to be retarded to win some kind of award(c) the Ringer ...but faking being a quadrapalegic now thats just pathetic and wrong, what could he have possibly gained by that, maybe going to the front of the line at 6 Flags? that shit was hilarity

[master cheef]

what has to happen for cops to treat civilians with some level of respect?

nothing pisses a cop off more than being reminded of the rights they swore to protect.

cops are always bitching about how little money they make, but make a living from taking money from those who have even less. the shit's disgusting, b.

[yaman]

for you defenders of theze fucking animals, behold your heroz beating people, swearing, threatening, and stealing at/from them (for skateboarding), pistol whipping them (for being mexican), running them over with police cruisers (for petty theft), viciously beating them with clubs (for being black), repeatedly tasering them (for not having an ID), DUMPING PARALYZED PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR WHEELCHAIRS FOR NO REASON, choking them (for skateboarding), torturing them with tasers (for doing what they said), repeatedly punching them in the face (after they are handcuffed and not moving), and threatening them with FALSE CHARGES (the pigz in that video threaten a man trying to park his car, saying they can make up any charges they want and no one will no the difference)

trust me from these vidz AND from my first hand experience,

FUCK THA POLICE.

-Adam Fangman

[yaman]

ps. dhere wuz supposed 2b sum vids in dat last post, but it lookz like bol'z commentz dont support video codez

[brichards]

What's the big deal? He could use his arms to brake the fall, and its not like it would hurt his legs.

[tps12]

Uh, quadriplegics can't use their arms either. Hence "quad," all four limbs.

[Nino]

"Ive seen alot of spinals in my life dude, and this guys a fuckin phoney, Ive never been more sure of anything in all my life!"
Walter.

[Bol]

I'm gay.

[NiggaPlease]

Wow, don't you just love affirmative action?

I know I do....otherwise where would we find videos of black people at a "job" doing what they do best?

I know everyone (ie black people) wants to sit there and blame this behavior on the whole "they be cops" thing, but I'm sorry...this isn't normal behavior even for cops.

But we're talking about BLACK cops here, so in all honesty, I actually expected them to kick the crap out of him and steal his wallet too.

Heck, I was surprised they didn't try and say that he threw HIMSELF out of the wheel-chair....since blacks insist on lying about everything, no matter how much evidence proves to the contrary.

"Alright people, move along, it's just TNB, nothing to see here."

[bomb]

^agreed.
when i go into a business and there is a black person working there at least half of the time i end up leaving in a bad mood from getting ridiculously bad service. especially government workers are always the worst. black people should never be given any sort of authority ever because they are far too irresponsible to use it properly.

[brichards]

My bad, I thought she said paraplegic for some reason. Still, that means the rest of his body wouldn't hurt either. Except maybe his face. Crybaby.

[Barry Bonds]

White people are so self righteous.

Think of all those people who walk into this country and feel shitty after they leave (get kicked out).

Or think about all the people who are in their country and feel shitty after the white people show up.

There is nothing a black person can do in the way of bad behaviour which could trump the DAILY activities of white people.

It's sad that you all feel that way but I am sure you can get over your "bad service" from black people. Think of all the people around the world who have to deal with Americas "bad service".

White people are the undisputed evil people of the world. The title stays in Crackerville. Hahahaha....

[Fire]

N*ggaPlease and Bomb, you both are remarkably full of shit on so many levels. Assuming that a person can't do a job because their black is like assuming you two are intelligent because you generalize, it just doesn't work.

[Fire]

^
they're

[king of your mom]

ever notice how a lot of companies are using black women for customer service nowadays. especially for returns and refunds. cause they know you will not get anywhere with black bitch and most people will just give up. they're obnoxious and fucking retarded. everytime you talk to a black bitch on the phone it's like you're arguing with your girlfriend on her period.

i tried to call my cell company to get a refund because my phone service wasn't working for the entire month. so they transfer me to this black bitch and i explain to her that all my calls drop and my phone isn't ringing when people call. and immediately this bitch starts telling me that it's my fault. i stayed calm explained it again slower like I would to a 2 year old and this bitch just keeps telling me it's my fault. that's how a black bitch is, they don't listen to anything you tell them and intentionally try to piss you off with their bitchy attitude. so after i explain it to her for the 4th time she says 'i'm not going to refund your money no matter what you say' and hangs up on me. i call back the next day 3 times until a white woman picks up explain the exact same shit and she doesn't even let me finish before she offers to refund my money. and don't even try to claim that happens every time when dealing with a black bitch. the same exact shit happened to me the next day at a check cashing place and i tell my black friend about it and he's like "let me guess it was a black woman". so don't act like y'all don't already know this.

it's not a generalization it happens almost every time. and don't get me started on black security gaurds. just face it most black people don't know how to act.

[M.Garvey]

^^^ It's hard to "act well" when you are the only race to ever be put into slavery. I mean, us black folks been fucked with worse than the jews, and you can see how its still affecting them.

P.S. - I just hope I can return to the peace and beauty of Africa.

[Fire]

just face it most black people don't know how to act.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm gonna call bullshit and shenanigans on that one. Just because those people gave you a bad experience is no reason to believe all black people act like that. Customer service people and security guards are generally people that no one wants to deal with anyway. I've met many smart African Americans, and many dumb ass people of all other races. I just don't see why black people get all the flak when there is rampant evidence of certain segments in all other races acting dumb.

We are all one race, human. Race is just a worthless social construct, that's it. It doesn't make us as people any less different.

[NiggaPlease]

^^ Brother, you just described EVERY phone call I've ever made to AT@T and VECTREN GAS to get something fixed thru customer service.

Unless you're talking to a supervisor, if the person you're talking to on the other end is black, especially a woman, you can GUARANTEE that they will either give you a hard time, fuck up whatever it is that you ask them to do, flat out lie to you to get you off the phone, OR they will hang up on you while they "transfer" you, cause they either don't want you talking to their boss or they are just so inept they can't even do that right.

White people expecting black people to act like niggers and fuck things up is not a generalization, its just reality...cause that's all you guys are pretty much capable of doing, and after years of dealing with it, we already know what to expect.

And it's not like I can't go down to the any local fast-food joint that's staffed by a majority of blacks and not have them fuck up my order every time, no matter how simple....oh, and don't forget the "fuck u whitey" look when they hand me my order.

[Fire]

You guys? FYI: I'm 100% white. Also, your intelligence is reflected in your ability to generalize. While your ability to generalize is great, your intelligence is lacking. You need to realize that not all black people are like that, just like not all white people are inbred trailer trash that go on Jerry Springer. Lots of fast food people mess up orders every time. Believe me, I've seen it happen, no matter what the race. You might want to expand it by joining us in reality, ceasing your belief in The Bell Curve and taking a look at this.

1. Regarding Murray and Herrnstein's claims about racial differences and genetics, the APA task force stated:
"There is certainly no such support for a genetic interpretation... . It is sometimes suggested that the Black/ White differential in psychometric intelligence is partly due to genetic differences (Jensen, 1972). There is not much direct evidence on this point, but what little there is fails to support the genetic hypothesis."

2. Regarding statements about other explanations for racial differences, the APA task force stated:
"The differential between the mean intelligence test scores of Blacks and Whites (about one standard deviation, although it may be diminishing) does not result from any obvious biases in test construction and administration, nor does it simply reflect differences in socio-economic status. Explanations based on factors of caste and culture may be appropriate, but so far have little direct empirical support."

3. Regarding statements about any explanations for racial differences, the APA task force stated:
"At present, no one knows what causes this differential."

4. Much of the criticism of The Bell Curve has focused on the potential for faults in the basic assumptions made at the beginning of the book. William J. Matthews and Stephen Jay Gould list four basic assumptions of The Bell Curve:

Intelligence must be depictable as a single number.
Intelligence must be capable of rank ordering people in a linear order.
Intelligence must be primarily genetically based.
Intelligence must be essentially immutable.
According to Gould, if any of these premises are false, then their entire argument disintegrates (Gould, 1994).

5.Similarly, in "Science" in the service of Racism C. Loring Brace writes that The Bell Curve makes six basic assumptions at the beginning of the book:

Human Cognitive ability is a single general entity, depictable as a single number.
Cognitive ability has a heritability of between 40 and 80 percent and is therefore primarily genetically based.
IQ is essentially immutable, fixed over the course of a life span.
IQ tests measure how "smart" or "intelligent" people are and are capable of rank ordering people in a linear order.
IQ tests can measure this accurately.
IQ tests are not biased with regard to race ethnic group or socioeconomic status.
Brace proceeds to argue that there are faults in every one of these assumptions.

6. The Bank of Sweden Prize winning economist James Heckman writes that two assumptions made in the book are questionable:
"g" accounts for correlation across test scores and performance in society.
"g" cannot be manipulated.
Heckman writes that a reanalysis of the evidence used in The Bell Curve contradicts this story. The factors that explain wages receive different weights than the factors that explain test scores. More than "g" is required to explain either. Other factors besides "g" contribute to social performance, and they can be manipulated.

7. Michael Hout of the University of California at Berkeley, along with five colleagues, recalculated the effect of socioeconomic status, using the same variables as The Bell Curve but weighting them differently. They found that if IQ scores are corrected to eliminate the effect of education as Herrnstein and Murrays did, the ability of IQ to predict poverty can be made to look dramatically overstated by as much as 61 percent for whites and 74 percent for blacks. In other words, according to Hout et al., Herrnstein and Murray's finding, that IQ predicts poverty much better than socioeconomic status does, is substantially a result of the way they handled the statistics.

8. In a paper titled A Reanalysis of The Bell Curve researchers found that Herrnstein and Murray's measure of parental socioeconomic status failed to capture the effects of important elements of family background (such as single-parent family structure at age 14). As a result, their analysis gave an exaggerated impression of the importance of IQ relative to parents` SES, and relative to family background.

9. In the book Intelligence, Genes, and Success: Scientists Respond to The Bell Curve a group of social scientists and statisticians analyzes the genetics-intelligence link, the concept of intelligence, the malleability of intelligence and the effects of education, the relationship between cognitive ability, wages and meritocracy, pathways to racial and ethnic inequalities in health, and the question of public policy. This work argues that much of the public response was polemic and failed to analyze the details of the science and validity of the statistical arguments underlying the book's conclusions.

10. William J. Matthews writes that part of The Bell Curve's analysis is based on the AFQT "which is not an IQ test but designed to predict performance of certain criterion variables".

11. Nobel Prize in Economics winner James J. Heckman observed that the AQFT was designed only to predict success in military training schools and that most of these tests appear to be achievement tests rather than ability tests, measuring factual knowledge and not pure ability. He continues:

"Ironically, the authors delete from their composite AFQT score a timed test of numerical operations because it is not highly correlated with the other tests. Yet it is well known that in the data they use, this subtest is the single best predictor of earnings of all the AFQT test components. The fact that many of the subtests are only weakly correlated with each other, and that the best predictor of earnings is only weakly correlated with their "g-loaded" score, only heightens doubts that a single-ability model is a satisfactory description of human intelligence. It also drives home the point that the "g-loading" so strongly emphasized by Murray and Herrnstein measures only agreement among tests--not predictive power for socioeconomic outcomes. By the same token, one could also argue that the authors have biased their empirical analysis against the conclusions they obtain by disregarding the test with the greatest predictive power."

12. A recent paper in the Psychological Review, "Heritability Estimates Versus Large Environmental Effects: The IQ Paradox Resolved" presents a mechanism by which environmental effects on IQ may be magnified by feedback effects. This approach may provide a resolution of the contradiction between the viewpoint of The Bell Curve and its supporters, and the 'nurture' factors of IQ believed to exist by its critics. Janet Currie and Duncan Thomas presented evidence suggesting AFQT scores are likely better markers for family background than "intelligence" in a 1999 Study.

"Herrnstein and Murray report that conditional on maternal "intelligence" (AFQT scores), child test scores are little affected by variations in socio-economic status. Using the same data, we demonstrate their finding is very fragile."

13. Charles R. Tittle and Thomas Rotolo found that the more written, IQ-like examinations are used as screening devices for occupational access, the stronger the relationship between IQ and income. Thus, rather than higher IQ leading to status attainment because it indicates skills needed in a modern society, IQ may reflect the same test-taking abilities used in artificial screening devices by which status groups protect their domains.

14. Min-Hsiung Huang and Robert M. Hauser write that Herrnstein and Murray provide scant evidence of growth in cognitive sorting. Using data from the General Social Survey, they tested each of these hypotheses using a short verbal ability test which was administered to about 12,500 American adults between 1974 and 1994 the results provided no support for any of the trend hypotheses advanced by Herrnstein and Murray.

15. One chart in The Bell Curve purports to show that people with IQs above 120 have become "rapidly more concentrated" in high-IQ occupations since 1940. But Robert Hauser and his colleague Min-Hsiung Huang retested the data and came up with estimates that fell “well below those of Herrnstein and Murray." They add that the data, properly used, "do not tell us anything except that selected, highly educated occupation groups have grown rapidly since 1940.

16. Dennis M. Rutledge suggests that through soundbites of works like Jensen's famous study on the achievement gap, and Herrnstein and Murray's book The Bell Curve, the media "paints a picture of Blacks and other people of color as collective biological illiterates-- as not only intellectually unfit but evil and criminal as well." thus providing, he says "the logic and justification for those who would further disenfranchise and exclude racial and ethnic minorities."

17. Many critics point out that 17 of the researchers whose work is referenced by the book are also contributors to Mankind Quarterly, a magazine with a slant towards racial eugenics. In his book The Bell Curve Wars: Race, Intelligence, and the Future of America Steven Fraser writes that "by scrutinizing the footnotes and bibliography in The Bell Curve, readers can more easily recognize the project for what it is: a chilly synthesis of the work of disreputable race theorists and eccentric eugenicists". Since the book promulgated the idea that blacks were on average less intelligent than whites, some people fear that The Bell Curve can be used by extremists to justify genocide and hate crimes. Critics have noted much of the work referenced by the Bell Curve was funded by the Pioneer Fund, which aims to advance the scientific study of heredity and human differences, and has been accused of promoting scientific racism.

[NiggaPlease]

"P.S. - I just hope I can return to the peace and beauty of Africa."

Honestly, we really wish ALL of you would do just that...ASAP.

Just so we don't have to hear about how it's always someone elses fault that black people just can't control themselves or act right.

"Oh, it's just because they be's economically downtrodden"

Oh, fucking please...go cry that crap to someone who isn't a flaming retard.

[Tropics]

This is the funniest shit I have ever read on the internets. Funny, because it's true.

The best part is when the incompetent bitch plays the Afirmitive Action card and gets promoted to supervisor.

Fact is, black people screw up everything. They built a beautiful center here with movies and restarants and nice stores, and withing a month it was so overrun with black teens hanging out and breaking into cars that no one would go there and the whole thing went damn near bankrupt.

I've been fighting with this black bitch at a treavel agency for 6 months trying to get my cruise straight. Today she calls me and says she's putting me on a cruise that stops in Haiti. You have got to be kidding me. I'm going on a cruise to get away from these jigs and you're going to send me to a place where the blacks are 10 times as violent and stupid as regular Amerikan blacks. Hell fu*king no!

Ya'll really need to get off your self entititlement high horse, start acting like civilized human beings and for Gods sake, pull up your fu*king pants. Black cops beating a paraplegic white boy? Like I'm even surprised. Did you get a look at that fat ass black bitch dyke?

[Abraham]

did anyone else notice dipshit up their saying black folks can act like asshats because they "...are the only race to ever be put into slavery. I mean, us black folks been fucked with worse than the jews, and you can see how its still affecting them."

here, I'll donate the 2.5 seconds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_trade

[Barry Bonds]

When you look at history or even daily life you can't tell me blacks can even hold a candle to the carnage whites implement world wide... I mean who else can you blame for killing the PLANET? Hahhahaha.... no matter how many blacks keep their pants at whatever level they choose, which is unacceptable to white people, we will never get accused of killing the PLANET!

Only white people can go into another persons country and start killing people on the house.... America is an embarassment. How can such a rich country have so many people in dire straits while they preach democracy to the rest of the world. They wonder why everyone else says: "Fuck Democracy and FUCK Americans". Guess what it's not because of bad customer service,hahahhaha.... How sad - whites can steal peoples life savings and destroy other peoples homes and yet they think blacks are the reason for their ails. It's you white people - it's you!

I suggest you do what YOU suggest: stop crying and take responsibility for your own actions.

I've never seen such a bunch of stupid people... look at your fucking President! How can anyone respect a country that elects and the RE-elects a man like George "Jeb Clampett" Bush?

The more you kids keep worrying about blacks the less attention you pay to the Spanish. I suggest you Crackers start learning Spanish. The writing is on the wall - YOU WILL GET FUCKED by the Spanish. It's only a matter of time. Hahaha....

[barbarian to da end]

^Your panties wearing too tight & bunched up today, Mr. Bonds?

[Barry Bonds]

Tight panties aside - am I wrong?

[barbarian bemused as Hell]

^Well, facts on the ground & reality say otherwise, but perception is always relative & subjective, especially here in hip-hop land.

That was some pretty heart-felt ranting though, you at least deserve some cedit for that, Mr. Bonds

[Barry Bonds]

So the reality is Blacks are what ails the White man?

Whites (Big Corporations) aren't killing the planet?

American isn't an embarrasment?

People around the world aren't saying: "Fuck America"?

White people (American government) don't go into other peoples houses and start killing people on the house (Iraq)?

America isn't a powerful country with a lot of people in dire straits (45 million uninsured)?

Which "facts on the ground" refute what I have "ranted" about?

[Still bemused]

Your vision of reality is a kick.

Those Progressve panties must be knotted as Hell.

Fire-breathing emotionalism, Mr. Bonds.

[Barry Bonds]

Is that an answer?

Emotionalism?

If I'm wearing panties my friend, you're wearing a thong with a plastic 12" dick affixed to the inside of your g string. Hahahhaa.....

[Tropics]

LOL, Bonds you're hilarious.

I live in a mixed 'hood', but you can always tell on garbage day which are black and which are white houses. The whites have their recycle bins out front, nicely devided into paper and plastic. Blacks, not so much. I think they use their bins to hold the kibble for their pit bull fighters. A little thing I know, but it just shows how lazy and stupid blacks are when it comes to even the slightest bit of enviromental awareness.

My favorite is when I go to the grocery and hand the black cashier my reusable cloth bags. First I get a blank stare, then I have to slowly and carefully explain to the idiot that I want her to use my bags, no paper OR plastic. The best was, after a careful explanation, the bitch puts my eggs in a plastic bag, then puts the plastic into my cloth bag. I usually just end up doing my own bagging. Again, it's not a generalization IF IT HAPPENS EVERY DAMN TIME! I was finally able to locate a WHITE store manager and asked him 1. why do you only hire blacks and 2. do you think you could have a meeting and explain to your employess why people use their own cloth bags. Months later and they're still, wait for it......... yes, CLUELESS.

If blacks are so great for the planet how come every time they're in control of a country, that country is nothing but corruption, violence and poverty? Explain why they'll kill every living creature and plant for pennies. Explain why Haiti and the Dominican Republic are on the same island, and Haiti is stipped of trees and the top soil has been washed into the sea, but the Domincan is a lush tropical paradise. Why? One reason, Blacks run Haiti, Dominican is Spainish. C'mon Bonds, name a place where it isn't so.

I agree with you Bonds, on one thing, whitey really needs to get a grip on this Latino invasion. Being way smarter and harder working than blacks, they are going to end up running this joint. Like blacks, they reproduce like rabbits except they actually know who the daddy is.

I can't wait until 2050. That's the projected year that Latinos will be the majority, then all us crackers can start whining about how the man is holding us down, like blacks have and will do forever.

[barbarian to da end]

Tropics- now that was funny line about bins &Kibble.

A bit of humor amid all that Bonds outrage.

[Barry Bonds]

Man I have to admit you've made a compelling point. Yes, blacks are the worst at bagging groceries, running countries, and raising their kids.

You've taken all the sterotypes and have used them to establish your position. Wait, that bagging groceries one is new. But hey, we will overcome that one too.

When I read your post Tropics all I can think of is: "I feel sorry for your mother." Because that dumb bitch has taught you NOTHING about the complexities of life and the hearts of men. It's too late and there is nothing you or I can do about it. You're stupid and you don't know it.

Like they say: there are some things you know, there are some thing you know you don't know and there are somethings you don't know you don't know. And Tropics you don't know that you don't know you're stupid.

You ask about courrupt nations ran by Blacks and of course you use Haiti as a shining example (how original). I have to admit I have never been to Haiti so I don't know their top soil situation but I do know they are historically a proud people who beat the French and began the ending of slavery in the Western Hemisphere. But hey, your concern is what is going on now. I don't know. But I am curious about White ran countries: North America (I mentioned their issues before in my other posts), Russia (their Czars were not to be fucked with - can't touch a body count in the millions), German (also with a body count in the millions), Northern Ireland (what's up with that - white on white occupation?), Italy (man the mafia is a motherfucker hard working people having to pay these thugs for "protection"), Australia (crackers kicking other cracker out of the country so they can fuck up someone elses country) man, and the list goes on and on...

Enviromental awareness? You hate your neighbors for not properly organizing their bins? So you must be an enviornmental assasin when it comes to Big Corporations or does it not bother you that much because they "neatly" destroy the planet.

I have to admit I'd be confused too if some stupid cracker handed me a cloth bag at a grocery store. Especially with all the enviornmentally safe plastic and paper we have for FREE! And then you expect her to not follow protocol for you in this one instance because you have some naive approach to "saving the planet". hhahhahah.....

Tropics you're a weak pussy. You couldn't hang with the average black person and go through their daily life. You'd probably kill yourself or kill a room full of your classmates first and then yourself. You live in a "mixed hood" but you hate it. Why don't you move dumb bitch. I swear if you clean yourself up and brush your teeth you'd be a manager at McD's with no application.

Man, I can't wait until 9/11 part deux. That's when the white crying really starts. It's like Nancy Kerrigan all over again: "Why, why, why...."

It's because you're an evil bunch of fucks! Hahahha.....

Oh and Whites are great parents because they abort their kids before they ever become a problem, or drown them or drop them off in dumpsters or raise them to kill masses of innocent people.

Remember what you use to say to your parents: "FUCK YOU!"?

[G-dubthegreat]

When you look at history or even daily life you can't tell me blacks can even hold a candle to the carnage whites implement world wide... I mean who else can you blame for killing the PLANET? ---This is undeniable. Whites have the propensity for extreme violence. The difference perhaps, is that 99% of the time that violence is borne out of ambition, expanding of the empire, conquering, things man have been doing since time immemorial. Our machines have gotten bigger and unfortunately the waste given off by our furious march forward is destroying the planet and now we must deal with that problem. The Industrial Revolution, the cathedrals of Europe, anglo man has always yearned for more and his ambitions have always pushed him onward and upward.---Hahhahaha.... no matter how many blacks keep their pants at whatever level they choose, which is unacceptable to white people, we will never get accused of killing the PLANET!--- You never will and you will never get accused of saving it, or changing it, or making any kind of real indelible mark upon it.-----

Only white people can go into another persons country and start killing people on the house.... America is an embarassment.---All of our heros are conquerors, but I bet that at the time they lived many hated them. America is not an embarrasment. We have placed ourselves into a situation and that situation has not played itself out. I predict we look back onto this time with a much different perspective than many of us have now.--- How can such a rich country have so many people in dire straits while they preach democracy to the rest of the world.---There will always be the downtrodden, they are necessary. This ain't fuckin' El Dorado.--- They wonder why everyone else says: "Fuck Democracy and FUCK Americans". Guess what it's not because of bad customer service,hahahhaha.... How sad - whites can steal peoples life savings and destroy other peoples homes and yet they think blacks are the reason for their ails. It's you white people - it's you!---It's strange how things that seem so normal looking back on history seems so outrageous while living in the present time. The world is unfair, innocents are killed, empires expanded, "interim" govts established. I'm in no way comparing Dubya to Alexander the Great, but the goal is similiar.

I suggest you do what YOU suggest: stop crying and take responsibility for your own actions.

---Saying that a group of people are dumb and annoying isn't crying. It's an observation. Excuse me while I go buy a flat billed cap with my baby's food money. Wait, did I say a flat billed cap? I meant crack.---

I've never seen such a bunch of stupid people... look at your fucking President! How can anyone respect a country that elects and the RE-elects a man like George "Jeb Clampett" Bush?

---The president in this country means shit. They've got a whole cabinet telling them what they should think about everything, and suggesting what they should do about everything.---

The more you kids keep worrying about blacks the less attention you pay to the Spanish. I suggest you Crackers start learning Spanish. The writing is on the wall - YOU WILL GET FUCKED by the Spanish. It's only a matter of time. Hahaha....

---Thats 100% right. The Latinos and their estimated 850 billion dollars in buying power will crush the Southwest first. Arguably they have that region and move upward slowly. It's a bloodless economic war and they are winning.-

[Abraham]

you can always tell it's garbage day in MY neighborhood because the dumpsters at the HUD apartments across the alley start to overflow, and then ours start filling up with Chicken McNugget containers, coloring books, and cans of Joose.

[ROX ONE]

as someone from a foreign country looking at this discussion, it is obvious that race is a very contentious issue in america and that your public schools are failing..

still, both sides manage to bring up many good points and well thought out points for me to consider..

[Tropics]

This is hilarity. It's what I tell my bleeding heart lib friends all the time, you're so worried about the blacks and latins, who both hate your white ass beyond belief and want nothing more than to crush your country, your culture and if possible your very life. The average black is more racist towards everybody than the worst slave masta that ever lived and the libs have been extorted by 'white mans guilt' for far too long.

I'm not saying that using cloth bags at the grocery is enough to save the planet. What I'm saying is, blacks are too stupid to understand or care what a crisis we have and can't and won't contribute in even the smallest way to impact the situation in any positive way. They'll just keep driving their big black SUV's (it was big Cadillacs when I was growing up), eating they ribs and wearing conflict diamonds until all their high rise projects in the major coastal cities are under water. Us crackers will be living in the beaty of the fly over sates and hopefully this time we'll be smart enough to not let you moogs in.

Maybe if your boi Osama, I mean Obama, gets in he can give you your mule and an acre on the coast and we all know what will happen when the water rises, since black people can't swim.

As for Boosh, that's because the nigs and joos in Palm Beach Florida can't read a ballot and voted for Buchanan, and then screwed up again in Ohio in 2004. Why would you jigs wait in the rain for hours to vote when you're too damn stupid to push the right button? Hilarity, absolute hilarity.

[NiggaPlease]

I swear to god, blacks have more fucking excuses for their pathetic and animalistic behavior than bill gates has money.

...."Oh, we be's poor and my great-great-great-great granddaddy was a slave, so it be's OK that black people still to this day act like they belong in the fucking jungle..."

And you'll notice that "barry bonds" still can't name ONE fucking place on this entire planet where black people live and either aren't killing each other in record numbers or aren't starving to death because they're too stupid or lazy to figure out how to feed themselves without the "white devils" help...but of course that's only after they kick all the white farmers out or kill them and their families, like they did in south africa.

Stick to what you know "barry"....welfare lines and blaming white people for all of your race's problems.

Oh, and don't even get me started on how blacks equate intelligence to "whiteness"...as if being smart was a bad thing, like if your too smart, your not black enough.

What a bunch of retard hypocrites.

[Barry Bonds]

Show many any violence which isn't "borne" out of selfish ambition or arrogance?

You're trying to paint history in your favor as if their is justification for people like Ken Lay and George Bush. These are selfish evil people plain and simple. Their ambition doesn't lie in the legacy of America but only in themselves. They want to be rich at all costs and by all costs I mean White people too. But these are your heros. George Bush is killing tons of Iraqi's and guess what tons of Americans - needlessly. I mean even other White people see this but you wax poetic about it as if we're talking about Manifest Destiny.

It's obvious from your posts that you are a piece of shit.

You can callously look at a situation where our planet is being destroyed by greedy Crackers who could care less about anyone else - Crackers included and your only retort is: At least you aren't going to make the situation better.

Wake up you dumb bitch! You are destroying yourself and everyone else around you. Can't you see that?

You let your government hand you over to your enemies through debt and you're mad at Black people? Your President is friends with the family of your enemies and you're mad at Black people? Everyone all over the world - China, Russia, German, Japan, England, South America - hates Americans and you're mad at Black people?

Denial is a hell of a drug.

[Barry Bonds]

Running a country is not an easy task. But hey there is no reason why their should be any starvation or turmoil or debt.

When you run a country everyone is happy and everyone is well taken care of - is that your vision of how government is Idiot?

It's a messy business and there are tons of African Nations ran by Africans that are doing just fine. You can deny it or ignore it but they exist.

And yes, there are countries where people are dying, people are hungry and things just aren't right.

Are you dumb enough to think that these things don't happen in the United States? Are you that stupid? Do you have any idea how many people are killed in America on the house due to poorly manufactured drugs, or poorly processed foods, or poorly trained doctors? What about all the uninsured? What about all the homeless? What about all the kids brought back from Iraq who were going to have to give back their signing bonuses because they didn't fulfill their contracts with the military?

I mean as bad as Blacks can be... and we can be bad, we could never do some off the wall shit like that... and then try to JUSTIFY it. I mean on all accounts most people will say on average Blacks are more humane than Whites. It's a known fact. Whites have a more callouse outlook on life and their surroundings. Talk to sociologist if you don't believe me. It has something to do with you guys growing up in the Cracker Mountains.

Hahahah.....

[Tropics]

Bonds, find one white person on this board who has defended Bush. You keep saying he's our hero, but his approval rating in under 30% and,as previously stated, he would have never gotten in office if you blacks could figure out how to operate a simple punch or touch screen ballot.

Now you want your boi in office, a guy who is in bed with 'clean coal' (you know it's true motherfuckers) and has been on the take with his buddy Renzo since the day he got out of college (and yes, you motherfuckers know that is also true).
Your boi supported late term abortions, like when the kid comes out screaming and you put a screwdriverin its head, but you have no qualms about that as long as you think he'll continue Afirmitive Action in perpituity. Funny you never got behind Sharpton like that, but wait, he has two black parents so you all must know he can't be as smart as a halfrican.

[Tropics]

BTW Bonds, if there are so many great black run African countries, how about naming one, just one. How about a black Carribean island that's not mostly poverty? I know this is hard for you because you've probably never traveled more than 10 miles from your projects, but maybe you can Goggle it.

[NiggaPlease]

Amd the pathetic excuses and lame cop-outs just keep coming....

Black people are so predictable.

[Fire]

And the half baked shortsighted stereotypical assumptions and prejudiced generalizations just keep coming...

Racists are so predictable.

[water]

and the nigger lovers keep responding to facts by crying racism. giving niggers a pass to do 1000 times worse shit than they would put up with from a white person.

predictable.

[Barry Bonds]

You blame Blacks for electing Bush? Wow, that's beyond crazy....that's ...need a new word....White Thought!

You kids are on some serious drugs. Which by the way is Americas truly favorite past-time.

Your rant about Obama is confusing. Can't address that one... you're going to have to repost using the Queens' English.

I don't know the economic situations of non of the Caribean countries but I am sure they don't have as much debt as America. That my friend is an undeniable truth. So is America impoverished due to all of this debt or because we're "floating" does that still mean we're rich? Think of the guy who lives in a million dollar house with a million and a half mortgage and a $100,000 income - is he rich?

Well since we are to blame for George Bush, I guess you can blame the mortgage crisis on us too... what about the poor state of the stock market or the economy in general is that due to Blacks too? Or will a White person finally take responsibility for something wrong in this country?

Yes, by me trying to show you how evil White people are I am coping out. Damn how did you figure it out? Shit...

You're right, there are no countries in Africa or the West Indies which have functioning governments. They are all on fire... that is why White tourist keep going there year after year and decade after decade because they are all barren waasteland. You my friend have perfected the art of contradicting yourself and denial. It's as if you're a ninja. "I have so many styles, forgive me!"

There is only one truth I can share with you today, we are all human, we are all both good and evil. It is the duplicity of man. Only have White people ignored their evil side and have projected it onto the least of the community.

We know who we are and we know who you are and yet you don't know yourself and think you know us.

Again, I wlll leave you with this - remember what you use to tell your parents: "FUCK YOU!".

[Tropics]

Bonds, you're hilarity. You sound just like Bush himself. Running a country is hard, it's hard work, it's really hard. But you expect white people to get it perfect, but find any lame ass reason possible to excuse how bad blacks fuck it up everytime they get the chance. NiggaPlease has your number to a T.

Fire, when does a sterotype become a fact? When it's almost always true. They're not called porch monkeys for nothing.

[Fire]

First off, the water commenter is too ignorant to address. Adults are talking, go play somewhere and get some common sense. Secondly, Tropics, where do you live? Where do you see black people living up to stereotypes on a regular basis? I'm not defending all African Americans, because, just like every other race, there are multitudes of idiots in that race.

But at the same time, this is not the majority. The black people that I have met have been very smart and good role models. I've met some dumb black people too, but I've also met some dumb white people, some dumb hispanic people, some dumb asian people, well, you get the idea (or at least you should). All races of people are the same, with good and bad elements in them.

Like Ron Paul says, racism is nothing more than a form of collectivism. Collectivism is dangerous because people only see the group and not the individual. It seems like you are immersed in it because of bad instances in your life, and while I don't know what your perspective is, there is no excuse or logical reason for racism. Since I've seen many dumb white people, let me just assume that they are all a bunch of trailer trash, or elitist neocons, or stuck up assholes, etc., etc. It would be foolish to say these things, just like it would be foolish to assume that all African Americans are ignorant. You can't put people inside of boxes and expect things to be accurate.

[barbarian to da end]

Yo, fellow gangstas, we're forgettin' about the hip-hop and that ain't right.

[NiggaPlease]

1. Nobody said that white people are perfect.

2. Nobody said that there isn't white people that are just as bad, if not worse, than african americans...

3. Nobody said ALL black people are scumbags. But based on the fact that the disrespectful and hateful attitudes and behavior we see is generally the norm...what would make you think that we expect anything else?

4. We can only go by what we see and experience...and just because YOU may not see or want to acknowledge this behavior from african americans as the norm doesn't mean that WE don't see it or that we're stupid enough to write it off as "well, they just be economically downtrodden" and act like it's acceptable or tolerable behavior.

5. Stereotypes exist for a reason...espc when it comes to black people, and for one simple reason...because black people never fail to show that:

The exception that proves the rule.

As for this whole "the majority of black people don't act like that"....it's total bullshit and any white person with more sense than a houseplant knows it.

---------------------------------

"I think I would like black people, but I have yet to meet one."

Nough' said.

[king of your mom]

Fire you can call facts stereotypes all day long when you're dealing with daily black behavior for which there is no statistical data.

But you can't deny the stastics of blacks committing crimes, going to jail, and failing at school at insanely disproportionate rates. If their wasn't solid data on that you would deny it as well. But since you can't how do you explain it? If you can't answer that then all of you 20 page rants are meaningless.

I do live around them and see them living up to black stereotypes on a daily basis. Where do you live? It's obviously far from any black people. You are trying to convince people to disbelieve things they have personally witnessed their entire lives with your abstract ideas.

[Tropics]

Fire
I'm originally from Cincinnati, a city that has been destoyed by blacks, largely due to their taste for crack. You can't look crossways at a black there without inciting charges of brutality and starting a riot. I mean a literal riot, you know, burning buildings, random beatings of white people, that kind of thing. I went to the same public shcools as blacks and,yes, even lived in the Findlater Projects, where the chemical smells burning at the P@G factory near by was so nasty that you'd be sick to your stomach all summer long. But unlike most of the blacks I knew from there, I bettered myself, got an education and got the hell out of there.
I now live in South Florida. I own a busness where I deal with legal and insurance issues. My clients range from wealthy Palm Beachers to the Hatians and Cubans just crawling off their inner tube when they float ashore. I get to see first hand everyday the differences in people. So if you really want to know what I do for a living, the answer is I listen to blacks (from all countries) tell lies and try to scam a buck out of whitey.
I also travel alot and have more stamps on my passport than you have food stamps. So this isn't just theory, I've actually been to these places of which I speak.
So you can lay that shit about 'prejudice' on some people, but I've been dealing with blackies lies and violence and laziness my whole damn life, so don't try to piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. I know you motherfuckers way too well. It's all bullshit and hustle and it makes me sick how many bleeding heart libs fall for this crap.

[NiggaPlease]

Tropics...I don't think I could've said it any better myself.

The sad part is that you're story is just like mine and pretty much every other white person that has had to grew up around or live in an area that has any sizable black population.

No matter where you go, if there's blacks living anywhere near the area, you can pretty much count on dealing with their lies and stupid bullshit.

I ran Tech Departments for computer stores for over 10 years before I started my own business, and to echo your thoughts...the ONLY customers I ever had problems with and the only scumbags that ever tried to steal from us or try to take advantage of us where:

Black people

But then blacks can't figure out why white business owners and employees watch them like hawks whenever a black person walks into a place of business.

Ya, that's a real hard one to figure out.

[barbarian to da end]

True, Tropics.

I spent all of the 90s living in & traveling to both Chicago and New Orleans and it was always like having to wade across a river of shit attitude and behavior with the black community.

Not much patience now with people whose room is an absolutely filthy trainwreck jumping up and telling me I must clean my room up.

[Fire in the Tropics]

Wow, a bunch of racist e-thugs gaining up on me. Here we go.

I don't have food stamps, Tropical Starburst. I actually am a pretty well off white male, as if that even matters. Second, nice Judge Judy reference in the end of your rant. However, that doesn't lend any credence to your opinion. Third, how could a Ron Paul supporter be a bleeding heart liberal? You've got some pretty flawed logic there. I've interacted with people of different races my whole life, I just don't believe in prejudice and racism because I can see the good in people. Don't hold it against me. Your willingness to isolate the undesirable elements of a particular race and live in a fantasy world where they are the only representatives of that race is scary for someone who claims to travel as much as you do. How do you explain African Americans that are well off monetarily and denounce the things you accuse black people of doing? Don't throw me opinions and expect me to take them as fact.

[Fire]

BitchPlease,
Just because you've had some dumb black customers (which I've come in contact with, and they are really annoying) doesn't mean anything. I've dealt with idiots of all races, and have interacted with all races. Your failure to seperate the criminal black people who only blame us white people for their problems and those who actually make something of themselves is quite despicable, as is your denial of the role ethnic stratification plays in our society. I'm not defending any black people that are looking for a handout and whining and complaining, I'm defending black people that don't fit in that category and that rise above that stereotype. How do you explain black people like Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Kenneth Chenault (CEO of American Express), Oprah, etc, etc, etc.? There are people of all races who have evil behavior, get used to it. Are you telling me you haven't had any other dumb people who weren't black set you off?

[Fire]

BitchPlease,
Just because you've had some dumb black customers (which I've come in contact with, and they are really annoying) doesn't mean anything. I've dealt with idiots of all races, and have interacted with all races. Your failure to seperate the criminal black people who only blame us white people for their problems and those who actually make something of themselves is quite despicable, as is your denial of the role ethnic stratification plays in our society. I'm not defending any black people that are looking for a handout and whining and complaining, I'm defending black people that don't fit in that category and that rise above that stereotype. How do you explain black people like Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Kenneth Chenault (CEO of American Express), Oprah, etc, etc, etc.? There are people of all races who have evil behavior, get used to it. Are you telling me you haven't had any other dumb people who weren't black set you off?

[Tropics]

NiggaPlease
As our friends would say, Word!
I run into whites on the internet and in life all the time who are full of love for the black man and everytime it's some white jackass that lives some place like Helena Montana and has actually met maybe one black person in their life, usually some nerdy black kid whose dad was a professor or something. They never stay friends because the black kid hits 16, gets all Rap Brown on their ass and steals their bag of pot and tries to feel up their blond girlfriend when they have their back turned. These are the libs who defend blacks to the bitter end, even though the one black person they ever met actually stabbed them in the back. So excuse the fuck out of me if I've met hundreds of black people and it's been a negative experience hundreds of times. If I don't learn something from that, doesn't that kind of make me an idiot too?

Just heard a funny story. My friends office sent the black bitch out to pick up lunch. He wanted a Steak chulapa and a taco. He got a Beef Burrito and a some chicken thing. They had a good laugh trying to figure out if it was the black bitch from their office or the black bitch at Taco Bell that fucked it up. Typical. I told him they both probably spit in his food and he may want to start thinking about packing his luuch.

I have to say, telling the truth feels really good. We all spend so much time being PC when the fact is we fucking hate you nigs and we know how much yuo fucking hate us. Just say it. The truth will set you free. And then we won't have to even pretend to be nice to you fuckers.

[Fire]

The second one wouldn't post at first. Anyway...

"But you can't deny the stastics of blacks committing crimes, going to jail, and failing at school at insanely disproportionate rates. If their wasn't solid data on that you would deny it as well."

King of His Mom's Hyman, along with the rest of the commenters, is making an assumption and thinking that all black people are ignorant people that live in or are from the inner city. That is where the problem lies. There are always idiots that fall victim to the criminal life. I'm not defending those people, and frankly there's no excuse for it.

As far as the school issue, let me explain a few things to you. Schools are chiefly financed by property taxes. Since the areas in the inner cities are poorer, there are less property taxes collected, bad teachers hired, and idiotic educational mindsets fostered (ie just trying to get funds instead of teaching kids).

Since there are less property taxes collected, the schools will not measure up in quality to those of the suburbs. Since the schools are worse and many teachers don't care about their students and just show up for a paycheck, there is less likelihood that any student will learn much of importance. This educational disparity (along with parents who couldn't give a damn and lack of motivation) contributes to failing in school.

Plus, you should really look at American history before 1965. It seems you have a deep seeded desire to deny it.

[Fire]

Tropics,
Too bad I live near Kansas City, Missouri. So much for your theory, jackass.

[Tropics]

Fire
How sad for you, to have to pretend that people who hate your guts really like you.

How do I explain CuntaleezaRice? Uh, the evil spawn of Satan, hellbent on destroying democracy and installing a facist government. So stupid that she thinks that a black woman will actually have a role in this New World Order. Dyke.
Colin Powell. Another dumb ass black who betrayed his country when whitey threw him a bone. Used and tossed aside. Fell for his own media hype and actually thought he was in the club. Hey Colin, fetch me a Port and a cigar.

Kenneth Chenault. LOL. Robber baron.

Oprah. No amount of money and fame can take away her inferiority complex. Hates whitey. Cares for Africa the way Col. Sanders cares for chicken.

So Fire, these are your heros. Pathetic.

[Fire]

Funny, except for Ken Chenault those people really aren't my heroes. I was just asking you to explain them. I predicted you'd only use half baked generalizations and racial slurs, just wanted to be proven right. Oh, and thanks for the rundown of your life earlier on this thread (the 16 year old black kid and the blonde girlfriend story). That explains why you hate black people. I have friends from all races, just so you know. Nobody has to pretend they like me, I'm likable enough on my own without bowing down to anyone.

Like I said earlier, your failure to distinguish between black people who cheat, whine, complain, and beg for handouts and those who make something of themselves is truly despicable. You really need to remove your head from your rectum, sir.

"A wise man told me don't argue with fools/Because people from a distance can't tell who is who." Shawn Carter (aka Jay Z)

[Tropics]

Fire
I went to an inner city public school, full of drugs, violence,pregnant teenagers and violence. It was hard, but you could get an education if you stayed off drugs and kept your legs together. The teachers were really trying hard (for the most part) and you could learn if you wanted to. Most of the white kids from my school did fine, most of the blacks have not. It was their choice. Even the black guy who was Pres. of student council, a kid that we thought would go far, ended up dropping out of college and becoming a big nothing.
Quit blaimng the schools, It's the parents and the laziness and people making their own bad choices. As I said at the start, trying to educate blacks is a waste of time, money and resources.

[Tropics]

Fire
The Helena Montana story isn't about me. It was a hypothetical, a composite of things that have happened to people I know. I have plenty of personal stories about blacks stealing, lying, you name it, but that one wasn't mine. I never dated a guy (knowingly) who would have considered having sex with a black bitch and I keep my pot well hid when blacks are around.

[Fire]

Tropics, if you look back at my responses I have never blamed the schools for idiots who don't want to do anything with their lives. However, I stated that it plays a part. I agree with your assertion on the parents and people making their own bad choices.

Personally, I went to an excellent and diverse school in the suburbs, but every person I've met from the inner city schools said that the teachers were lacking and were just there for compensation. I was even debating an inner city teacher on the Internet a while back and he admitted he just showed up for the check, so you can't deny that there is a fairly large element of teachers who don't care. Combined with kids who don't care and school systems with backwards priorities such as the KCMO and KCK school districts, that's dangerous.

I agree that kids of any race who care about learning and prospering enough will make something of themselves, I have never stated or implied anything to the contrary. However, I don't see where you get racist tendencies. I don't know how many times I have to say this, but there are degenerates and fuckups in every race. Believe me, I've seen it. If you knew the smart black people I knew I'd guarantee and put money on the fact that you would change your tune somewhat.

[Tropics]

Fire
That's fine. Live in your own little fantasy world. Sure, there are exceptions to every rule. But you said you lived in the burbs, so your experience is probably more along the lines of meeting the few, not the many. The real world isn't so much hearts and flowers, so good on you that you've been able to keep that naive perspective. I hope nothing ever happens to you to change that.
Peace
Out

[Fire]

True, I did say I live in the burbs, but I also live near KCMO, a major city, so believe me, I've met many African Americans and other races as well. My best friends are Hispanic, Black, White, and part Jewish. I've definitely met the many. Among that many I've seen some real stupid motherfuckers that I disliked, but I don't choose to believe that they represent the many great examples I've seen.

Plus, I also never said the real world was hearts and flowers. As an 18 year old I don't claim to know it all, but I do know enough of what the world is like to analyze information and draw my own conclusions. You're definitely not speaking to a naive person who lives in fantasyland. No out to lunch activists here.
I would say that tolerant is a better adjective to use. If you piss me off I'm an equal opportunity offender regardless of color or gender.

I'm sorry you ran into some dumb asses that had a hand in you distorting your perception of other races, but I hope something happens to you and other prejudiced ones that changes your view on that issue. Adios.

[Barry Bonds]

I can't believe the idiot who said "white people aren't perfect". Perfect? Fuck perfect. How bout trying to be civil towards your fellow human?

As the rants go on and on I realize it's not about merit or demerit... it all boils down to: "We just don't like Black people."

You can mask it with your bullshit statistics and your daily news but it all boils down to support for your ultimate position which is: "We just don't like Black people."

You can tell yourself otherwise but it's true. I mean that is the only explination for all of the bullshit anecdotes about recycling bins, garbages filled with chicken boxes, "high number of blacks in jail", or the girl who gave you a hard time at the check out line. So what... maybe THAT bitch was having a bad day... oh but wait... "it happens all the time"... wow that sucks to be you. You're like that kid from Charlie Brown with the cloud over his head. But hey if you want to bitch, here is a better place than any to let it out.

How can you ignore the bad behaviour of Whites and then try to admonish blacks for the most petty of infractions in the entire scheme of life... pants below the waist... boom boxes, un neat recycling bins... man thinking about this shit is insane. How do you ignore the man in the mirror so well?

"No one is trying to say Whites are perfect". Duh!

What was that other statement about "White Guilt" that shit is your fault not ours... and it extends way past blacks to...Indians, Women, Jews, Germans, Japaneese and when the "War on Terror" is over Middle Easterners too.

You Crackers stop doing so much dirt and you won't have to feel that "White Guilt". Oh and I forgot you can add the PLANET to that list.

I am not going to play junior psychologist like all of you other fucks but I will say you guys have got to work this shit out without guns or else you all are going to be killing yourselves and others in greater numbers.

I mean this kid shoots up a University the other day and all you guys can think about is your unruly black neighbors? Get a life!

[Cynical barbarian]

Your own self-generated, bad bullshit has turned your neighborhoods into a basketcase, Barry.

Is that why I had a no. of black co-workers in Chi-town tell me directly that they wanted to move their families to a white neighborhood?

After reviewing your spiteful rant,who the fuck are you to start lecturng about being cvil?

Practice what you preach.

[NiggaPlease]

So we're back to "barry bonds" making more ignorant comparisons about things that aren't even comparable.

Wow, that's new coming from a black person.

I love how he just thinks we're talking about our "neighbors"....

Hate to burst your bubble, but I live in the big city, and I don't even have to go out my house to know how ignorant black people are.

I only have to do two things to figure that out.

Listen to the car stereos shaking my windows at 3am from the jigs driving down my street because they have zero respect for anyone around them.

OR

Turn on the TV and watch the news...and just wait for the newscaster to say that someone committed a violent crime like robbery, mugging, rape, or arson....and low and behold, as it is always, it's a black person and if it isn't a black person, it's a mexican....but that's rare.

But, I'm sure according to "mr bonds", that's white peoples fault too, somehow or another.

Like I said, white people can't be held accountable or be blamed for black people as a majority not being able to control themselves or act right.

My grandfather said something years ago, and I really didn't quite get it then because I wasn't old enough to understand what was behind it all...but now that I've lived all other the country and have 30+ years of dealing with these morons, I COMPLETELY understand, and it's the biggest piece of truth ever uddered about black people.

Here's what he said to me:

"I shouldn't have to go thru 5 busloads of niggers to find 1 black person."

And that, people, is the fucking truth of it all.

BTW, I had roommates in college from somalia and africa that hated african-americans more than any white person I EVER MET.

And they can't stand you for all the same reasons we do, except they look at as "they make us look bad along with it all"....so please try and explain that one away.

Oh, that's right, you can't.

[Fire]

I love how people are just inclined to think that their piece of the world is the whole universe, and that if it happens in their neighborhood it must happen everywhere else. That's why I don't take commenters like BitchPlease seriously. Nobody likes loud and annoying assholes from any race. Here's proof in a quote from James Brown.

"A colored is a very frightened-to-death Afro-American. A Negro is one that makes it in the system, and he wants to be white. A nigger, he's loud and boisterous, wants to be seen. Nobody likes a nigger. A black man has pride. He wants to build, he wants to make his race mean something. Wants to have a culture and art forms. And he's not prejudiced. I am a black American man. Now you go ahead and print it."

There are far more black people, as a matter of fact the majority, than the slurs that shortsighted people would be so inclined to use. It amazes me how people don't see this. It actually makes me have less faith in my elders and the American educational system. They must be stuck in their own world.

[Cynical barbarian]

Sounds like there is one Hell of a gap between the picture you paint and the reality people keep running into in daily life, Fire.

You & James Brown(a great musician) have a worthy goal, but it's just not what one sees when one steps out the door.

[Fire]

^The funny thing is I'm telling the reality of my life and people are trying to accuse me of having ulterior motives or a clouded perspective. Once again, I've met dumb people from all races, but it confuses me how people think that dumb black people represent all African Americans. I know the types of people they're talking about, but those are not the representatives of the entire race. That would be like a black person assuming that all white people are represented by Jerry Springer guests, George Bush, and Carrot Top. It sure as hell isn't true, so why are some of us inclined to see all black people in a negative light despite evidence to the contrary? Maybe I've just been exposed to more than those who have prejudice towards black people.

Also, tolerance isn't too much of a goal for me. It's idiots from all races, a lack of exposure to various facets of the world, and a lack of education that are holding it back for everyone.

[Barbarian to da end]

Liberal whining won't save the world.

They generalize to no greater degree than you do.

[Fire]

Your response makes no sense, Barbarian. Would you seriously equate being tolerant with being liberal? That's scary if you do. Tolerance has no political affiliation.

Plus, stating things in a logical manner that discounts emotion (which happens to be a different manner from yours)is not whining, it's presenting my beliefs. You shouldn't hold that against me just because you disagree. What you should really be against is the ideals that certain segments OF ALL HUMANITY practice. Race has nothing to do with it.

Come up with a logical rebuttal. What are your reasons for siding with racist commenters?

[Cynical barbarian]

When "tolerance" lurches into a rationale for excusing or justifying bad shit or foolishness, then I start to have a problem with the label and how it is abused, Fire.

If they are guilty of extremes, you fall into the same category.

I find Liberals of being equally guilty of wearing the same self-righteous, flip cloak their opponents wear.

When Liberals are more willing to acknowledge their own errors & "bad side" as they are eager to tack it on the shoulders of others, then they'll start to come across as more valid.

Tell me, when the fuck did the "give-and-take" of "balance" disappear, as it seems to have in these recent years?

[Tropics]

OK, I admit Bonds 'I just don't like black people'.And why the hell should I. In the majorityu of cases what's there to like?

Fire sounds like a little white girl with a bad case of jungle fever. I knew alot of girls like her when I was in high school. The ones that escaped without popping out some high yellow babies eventually smartend up and got back to white men. Of course when we see these women now we are sworn to secrecy about their sluttish past. They sure don't want their white husband and kids knowing that you gobble the black nob. Fire, stay on the pill until your over your little sexual experimentation, and for Gods sake, use a condom, even if the brother swears he's STD free. If he's also banging black bitches, chances ar he's got something. Take these few precautions and you're anly fucking up you life in the short run, not forever.

Ok, so there's these noble blacks, Afro Am.s, niggers and negros. That sounds all fine and dandy, so I guess the problem is these wonderful blacks must never leave their house because I sure don't run into too many of them in the real world. My UPS guy seems nice enough, but I only have to deal with him like 10 seconds a day. The ones I have to really talk to are completely full of shit and of course, all the ones in any service industry are just bitches with attitude.

It just is what it is. Instead of being pissed at whitey for noticing how fucked up blacks are, why don't you trun some of that anger inwards and clean your your act. If I say 70% of all black children are born out of wedlock, that's not prejudice, it's just FACT. So how am I a bad person for speaking the truth? Oh, that's right. Your grandpappy was a slave so now I have to give a pass on any bullshit thing you do.

Just tell me this. How many years away from slavery do we have to get before blacks start taking personal responsibilty? Seems to me the statute of limitations should be about up.

[Fire]

^I agree with what you just said. You should personally know that I feel the same way about balance and moderation due to my postings on XXL that you've commented on. You seem to always commend me for finding the middle ground. It's funny how you're accusing me of going against something I believe in. I never said that being tolerant should be used for excusing or justifying bad behavior, in fact, I hold the exact opposite viewpoint. Tolerance involves seeing people for who they are regardless of race and treating them THE SAME, with THE SAME standards, THE SAME courtesy, and THE SAME punishment if need be regardless of race or gender. No extremism here, now or ever.

"All government — indeed, every human benefit and enjoyment, every virtue and every prudent act — is founded on compromise and barter." Edmund Burke

"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist. The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity." Ron Paul

"I look forward confidently to the day when all who work for a living will be one with no thought to their separateness as Negroes, Jews, Italians or any other distinctions. This will be the day when we bring into full realization the American dream — a dream yet unfulfilled. A dream of equality of opportunity, of privilege and property widely distributed; a dream of a land where men will not take necessities from the many to give luxuries to the few; a dream of a land where men will not argue that the color of a man's skin determines the content of his character; a dream of a nation where all our gifts and resources are held not for ourselves alone, but as instruments of service for the rest of humanity; the dream of a country where every man will respect the dignity and worth of the human personality."-Martin Luther King, Jr.

"I believe in recognizing every human being as a human being, neither white, black, brown nor red. When you are dealing with humanity as one family, there's no question of integration or intermarriage. It's just one human being marrying another human being, or one human being living around and with another human being. I am not a racist. I am against every form of racism and segregation, every form of discrimination. I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color." Malcolm X

[Fire]

I agree with Barbarian's observations on liberalism, not Tropical Starburst's drug induced ranting and raving. The only thing she can do is throw insults out, still not coming up with a valid argument. Must be that time of the month.

Personal responsibility is indeed very important, and if you still can't see that I believe that, you need to drive down to your local optometrist and pick up some contacts or your local emergency room so they can remove your head from your anal cavity. Read my response to Barbarian, Tropics, and my past responses. Actually open your eyes and try to comprehend the words on the page. Might be hard, but go ahead. Then you will know how I feel.

[Tropics]

Fire, I get it. At your age you're suppose to be a wide eyed optimist and lover of all mankind. You're suppose to quote Malcolm and Ghandi and Che, and really believe that all that hyperbole means something. It's just part of being young.

Being that I didn't grow up in the lilly white burds, I never had the chance to start life with your innocence. My reality was far differenet, actually living and going to school side by side with other races.

Not for nothing, but I notice that you didn't deny the jungle fever. So, you're digging the dark sausage? I've heard they sweat alot when they're doing it. Is that true? You may want to buy a really good washable mattress cover.

[Fire]

Tropics, your ignorance is quite amazing. I guess the Bible was right when it says you can't throw pearls before swine. The quality of the schools you went to must have been abysmal because you couldn't string a logical point together to save your life. You are a sad pathetic slave to emotionalistic reasoning that discounts facts and self reliance. Make way for the future. You can stop masturbating to your own opinions and join us in the real world any time. Look at it as your own personal responsibility. Just wash off the shit stains from your face first.

Like I've already told you, I'm a male. I like all types of girls except for one, ugly. My suburbs and college (UMKC) are far from lily white, and, like you, I've gone to school with all races MY WHOLE LIFE. You can't tell me how I've lived my life, so stop relaying your black man fantasies to me. Oh yeah, I couldn't give a fuck about Che Guevara. Just because you can't comprehend the messages of Malcolm X and Mahatma Gahndi is no reason to start your menstrual cycle.

Just because you've done nothing with your poor excuse for a life is no reason to get up in arms either. That's why you're mad. Take your broken down senile ass out of here. Tell me, how does it feel being a waste of sperm, air, resources, and brain (albeit the two cells its withered down to)?

[Tropics]

BTW Fire, you realy need to learn more about your heros before you post their quotes. Malcolm was a Black Muslim, who belive strongly in segregation. Supposedly he had some kind of epiphany when he went to Mecca and saw that REAL Muslims come in all shades, but that doesn't mean he ever gave good ol' white Amerikans a pass. He was self loathing, being reminded that he was a halfrican every time he looked into the morror and saw that red hair.
I don't know when he wrote all that flowerey shit, but he was probably trying to get a 'faith based' goverment grant or some shit at the time. He was killed by other blacks, not whiteys, as your negro friends would like you to believe. I'm sure you creamed your jeans when you saw Denzel play him in the movie (more jungle fever), but movies are always a long way from actual historical fact. When you grow up you might realize that.

Also, the drug cracks might make you feel superior, but fact is I'm totally clean and sober, The pot crack was just a joke.

Why don't you go away for awhile and come on back when you actually learn something.

[Tropics]

Fire
You said in another thread that you're an 18 year old girl. So, eithier you're a liar or a fag, who perfers black man nob. You make assumptions about other peoople based on your own self hatred, probably due to the fact that all those blacks you love so much think you're nothing but jive ass trailer trash.

Note to all, still, Fire does not deny he/she loves the black cock. In fact, it's his/her very reason for living.

[Fire]

Where did I say I was an eighteen year old girl? You must be getting your fantasies confused. I don't like black men like you seem to (you have them on your mind constantly, go out and get some if it won't screw up your blood pressure). However, I've seen a lot of black women that are pretty gorgeous. Since reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, get a new prescription and open your damn eyes.

I've read The Autobiography of Malcolm X, and I've never seen the movie. I like things to be factual, that's why if I want to know something I read about it. I know all about Malcolm X, from his beginnings in Nebraska and Michigan to his time in Boston and Harlem. I know all about him changing his life from a petty criminal to a Nation of Islam minister to his expulsion because of seeing Elijah Muhammed for the lying fraud that he was. I know he was killed by three black N.O.I. members because of this.

The reason behind his philosophical change was indeed his pilgrimage to Mecca, where he saw white people, black people, and all other races interacting together and helping each other. He even said himself that he had made sweeping indictments of all white people, and that doing that was just as wrong as making sweeping indictments of all blacks. You can believe in all the paranoid assertions you want, but that doesn't make it true. Malcolm X was against evil of all kinds, black or white. Read about American history before 1965.

Oh, and if you really believed in the power of self reliance you would use your brain to discern the good and bad in people regardless of race. As Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

"Your genuine action will explain itself, and will explain your other genuine actions. Your conformity explains nothing. Act singly, and what you have already done singly will justify you now. Greatness appeals to the future. If I can be firm enough to-day to do right, and scorn eyes, I must have done so much right before as to defend me now. Be it how it will, do right now. Always scorn appearances, and you always may. The force of character is cumulative."

[Thomas Jefferson]

Bigotry is the disease of ignorance, of morbid minds; enthusiasm of the free and buoyant. Education & free discussion are the antidotes of both.

[Tropics]

Yeah, Thomas Jefferson said that shit right after he got done fucking his black slave girl.

[Fire]

Nice use of irrelevant red herring. Can I get a side of logic with that?

[Barry Bonds]

Some dumb bitch said I was making comparison which "couldn't be compared?".

I don't know what the fuck she was talking about and obviously she doesn't either because she presented no examples to that point.

Then the bitch goes on to mention how her understanding of Blacks are not only based on what she goes through on a daily basis but what she hears coming out of their cars...and what she sees on T.V.

Look bitch, you can't have it both ways you can't try to present yourself as someone who has the upper hand in the I.Q. department and then admit that your understanding of a culture or a people is based on what you see in the "News"on T.V. Come on the "News" has stopped being the News a long time ago.

But hey, any place where you can find out the latest lotto numbers or Britney Spears sightings can't be all that bad.

Whites get all caught up in what Blacks are doing and forget everything wrong with them. I mean when are you guys going to stop killing innocent people trying to get an education? Gonna print up some t-shirts: "Don't SHOOT me dude!" Hahhaha.....

30 plus years and this is the level of depth in your thought process? Blacks bad, black music bad, black tipping bad, black "looting" Katrina bad, Blacks at work bad, blacks in schools bad, blacks without work bad, black out of school bad, blacks with homes bad, blacks renting bad.... Hahahaha.....

I swear if Crackers concentrated less on Blacks and more on correcting this country we'd be living in Utopia.

So what some bitch was rude to you, so what you don't like our music, so what my recycling bin is fucked up, so the fuck what....

Crackers are so crazy about Blacks there are laws to protect Blacks from these Crazy Crackers....I mean, if it weren't for employment laws, real estate laws, mortgage laws, fucking laws prohibiting seperation in schools...we'd really be fucked.

I mean DAMN Crackers calm down. It's not that bad.

[Liam]

^^^lol, don't underestimate white fright

Also, I'm pretty sure that Bol must have a huge link to his site on either the Republican party's or Stormfront's homepage, considering the amount of white nationalists (aka racists) in his comments section. The only question is, which one of them is going to try and assassinate Obama?

[Tropis]

Fire, you really are an ignorant slut. You got a bunch of white guys who base their new government on the idea that all men are created equal, except for the niggas they own and the bitches they marry, then you wonder why this shit is so fucked up? This joint was based on garbage to begin with.

My main beef with blacks is they fail to realize that we're all in this sinking ship together, and rather than doing anything positive, they just blame whitey for their own laziness and go through life like we owe them something. We're all immigrants and most of us spend our lives working just to pay tax's and get shit on just like they do, but blacks really think that they're the only ones who have ever been picked on, that they experience is so damn unique.

I can't wait till Obama is president. Blacks think he's their Messiah, but this crooked bitch is going to take us so far down that within months every black you know will be reminding us on a daily basis that he ain't even a real niga, he's just some half breed and they'll all be claiming they voted for Hillary. LOL. Jigs, you got to love' em. Of course, reading the shit on this board, it's evident that there are a lot of really dumb ass whites too, Fire being about the dumbest bitch of thme all.
Hey Fire, c@p something to show how effin brilliant your are. LOL.

[Fire]

Hmm, never knew tolerance was equated with stupidity, Tropical Starburst. It's funny how you question my intellect, yet your arguments are merely made up of ad hominem fallacies and functionally illiterate emotional appeals. I'd be happy to educate you on some other fallacies you engage in as well.

This is the reason you will never be taken seriously. You are not on my level, nor are you above it. Don't try to spar with those who are clearly more intelligent than yourself. You are polluting the gene pool and helping to hold the progress of humanity back with your half baked emotional ramblings. It's quite hypocritical for you to have the audacity to dismiss a form of government that guarantees you the basic freedom of being a completely vegetative inbred halfwit over the Internet. Don't forget that if our Founding Fathers hadn't engaged in attempts at a democratic republic you wouldn't have these freedoms.

In a perfect world, moderation would rule the world, and a candidate like Ron Paul who would make things more equal for everyone regardless of race would take over. This is the antithesis of what you believe, so I really can't expect you to understand the power of moderation and equality, and self reliance. Take your medication and doze off into a sound stupor and continue sleepwalking through life if you truly must.

[Tropics]

Ron Paul! You really are some fringe wingnut moron.

[Tropics]

Ron Paul! You really are some fringe wingnut moron. You're just like all your heros, all hyperbole, no substance.

[Fire]

Provide a logical argument as to why I'm a so called fringe wingnut moron who's all hyperbole and no substance. Go ahead, I dare you.

[Fire]

And just to make this interesting, try not to use personal attacks and ad hominem fallacies as the sole basis of your argument. Try to come up with something that's actually relevant.

[fuck fire]

Fire you're a naive young faggot. The sad part is you think you're schooling somebody because you talk like you’re writing your high school english essay. You admitted you're a "well off" 18 year old. How about shutting the fuck up since you have no first hand information on anything at this point in your life. You live with your parents in a white neighborhood and come on here talking about how blacks aren’t bad? Some of us have had to grow up with and work with niggers and it’s insulting that some 18 year old rich boy punk wants to try to tell us how blacks are. All of my friends grew up in the same neighborhoods in NYC as these black cock suckers and none of us act like out of control shit heads like niggers do. Niggers do not teach their kids any sort of decency and people like me have to deal with it while you are tucked away in your wealthy neighborhood far away from any type of problems. So don’t come up on here running your mouth like you know shit about shit. I’ve lived down south, in the Midwest, in towns on the Mexican border and everywhere you go regardless of money or environment niggers turn out rotten. The fact that you have that much to say about something you have little or no personal experience with just shows what a deluded moron you are. Shut your little punk mouth and move on. Save your cries of racism for your dad when he warns you about niggers at the dinner table, don't bring that shit here.

[Fire]

^Looks like someone's on the cycle. When I say well off, I mean I live in the suburbs, but I'm not a super wealthy trust fund idiot or uneducated backwoods hick such as yourself. My family's actually closer to middle class if you want to toss around semantics.

I just live in a fairly decent neighborhood close to KCK and KCMO, which are two of the top 25 most dangerous cities as far as crime per capita according to national statistics. I've grown up and worked with all sorts of races, and have seen the good and bad parts of all humanity. It's really funny that you think you can tell me about my personal experiences. Just because you run into some idiots doesn't mean that they are the representation. It's funny how you attack me for being educated just because you can't string a logical point together. Like the challenge I issued to Tropics, come up with a logical argument that doesn't use emotional appeals, and maybe, just maybe, you might intellectually redeem yourself. If ignorance is bliss, how come you aren't happier?

[Fire]

Alas thou dim-witted peasant. You continuously fall short of distinguishing that I am plausibly inadequate. I see yet again you've failed to espouse the levels of effeminateness achieved by persons such as myself. Thus, my terminology and dictation is quite absurd and preposterous. I have rather speciously concluded that my mastery of circumlocution has bamboozled those in attendance to deem me intelligent. I hanker after my own physical termination yet heretofore am too timorous to attain such results. You, much like my paternal figure are aghast and mortified by my existence. Clearly, the fellatio I perform on phalli is a direct consequence of my fascination with melanin. Thus, one can only conclude that I possess a voracious yearning for black cock and am a windbag.

[Liam]

"come up with a logical argument that doesn't use emotional appeals" - lol good luck with that one, it's like asking Hitler for a reasonable debate on Judaism

[Fires Dad]

Turn off the computer and go to bed. Did you forget you have the breakfast shift at Mickey D's tomorrow? (worthless twinkie)