Illegal immigration reality check

Celebrating a Day Without a Mexican
Is there a progressive case to be made for illegal immigration? Not that I care, but I notice a few d-bags in the comments here have made it a point to suggest that being against illegal immigration is some sort of conservative argument. I wonder if they're just being disingenuous or if they're really that dumb.

Of course my money is on the latter.

From what I can gather, the best argument to be made in favor of illegal immigration, from a progressive standpoint, is that most illegal immigrants are hispanic, and therefore if you're against illegal immigration, then that makes you a racist. Correct me if I'm wrong, but then you bags have already had months now to put forth a better argument.

Here's the case against illegal immigration - mind you, from a left/liberal whatever you want to call it perspective:

Illegal immigration, as it exists in America today, only serves to shift money from the pockets of poor Americans and into the pockets of the already uber wealthy elite. While it's true that the illegal immigrants themselves stand to make more money than they would in Mexico, to use an example, this is the same reasoning used to defend corporations who run sweatshops in third world countries.

Indeed illegal immigration in the US, as an issue, shouldn't be viewed as any different than the issue of sweatshops in third world countries. While it's true, we can presume, that some 13 year-old girl in Malaysia can make more money sewing Air Force Ones than she can having sex with sailors and what have you, this is hardly a reason to be in favor of sweatshops.

In the long run, Malaysia is still going to be a world class shit hole, that pair of Air Force Ones is still going to cost $100 for the black kid in the US dumb enough to buy them, and the only people who will have benefited are the rich d-bags that own Nike.

If there's a difference between sweatshops off in Asia somewhere and illegal immigration here in the US, it's that the jobs performed by illegal immigrants here in the US don't lend themselves as easily to sweatshops in foreign countries. It's more feasible economically to pay someone $3 to pick lettuce here in the US than to pay someone in Malaysia $.03 and then have to ship it, what with gas prices and all.

Of course the rub is that a head of lettuce isn't going to cost any less than it would if some American citizen was paid $8 to pick it. That extra $5 or whatever goes right into the pocket of the bags that own whatever company it is that makes lettuce. Maybe some Mexican makes $1 more than he would otherwise, but there is no net benefit for the vast majority of the population.

Transferring wealth from the hands of the poor into the hands of the rich is the very antithesis of progress. Being against illegal immigration is the "right" side of the issue, regardless of what you think about Mexicans. Personally, I think they stink; but like I said, that's neither here nor there.

Comments

[ROX ONE]

"While it's true, we can presume, that some 13 year-old girl in Malaysia can make more money sewing Air Force Ones than she can having sex with sailors and what have you, this is hardly a reason to be in favor of sweatshops."

Damn.. Air Force 1's and youth sex.. where is this "malaysia"..

[bookworm]

Bol(ivian?),

The benefits of illegal immigration outweigh the costs. Granted, its hard to place a dollar-value on the negative psychological impact of living (or working) next to somebody brown, but its just some shit you and yours will have to deal with.

[Bol]

>The benefits of illegal immigration outweigh the costs.

I think I just broke down, in actual dollars and cents, how illegal immigration only benefits the elite. Just like all sweatshops.

[i'm broke bitch!]

Bol have you rigged your Violence Against Women poll? Every time I vote 'Mostly unacceptable' (just to test it) the shit crashes!

[Yep]

MESSAGE!

[Verde Grande]

What a poorly written article and a desperate attempt. Still hating all the Mexicans? Don't complain about being called a racist when you say shit like . . .

>Personally, I think they stink; but like I said, that's neither here nor there.

First of all your logic is stupid. Are you trying to say that immigrants shouldn't be allowed to come here because you think they'll have it bad anyway? If life in Mexico wasn't that bad, they wouldn't be rushing toward this country as fast as Fat Joe at a buffet line. Some of these illegals come here, leave their families, get a job, and send their money back to their hometowns. Believe it or not, that money they make from shit jobs is enough to rebuild an entire third-world town.

So do I buy that its hopeless for illegals anyways? No.
Do I believe that you give a shit about the exploitation or poverty these people live in? No.

Obviously, there needs to be some reform and restriction on immigration, but to actually separate families and deport millions of illegals? The bureaucratic process will end up costing more than the actually existence of illegals.

There's the argument. Now shut the fuck up about immigration already.

[subject]

Congratulations Bol. I think you may have actually made a good point.

[subject]

>Some of these illegals come here, leave their families, get a job, and send their money back to their hometowns.

But isn't that the point? These people are taking money out of the American economy (and the pockets of actual Americans) and sending it to Mexico. While that may help poor Mexicans, it certainly doesn't do anything for the average American. And at the end of the day, doesn't America have to think of Americans first.

[Dr. Ishakamusa Barashango]

Bol,

There is actually a very, very small economic benefit to the USA of having a bunch of Mexicans working very cheaply in the USA.

Google the name "Borjas" and "immigration" - the number is about $7 billion a year, because stuff is a bit cheaper than it would otherwise be. $7 billion sounds like a lot, until you divide it by the 300 million people in the USA, to get a number of around $22/person.

So basically, for $22 a year, we dumb down our country, risk becoming like Brazil or Mexico and completely shaft working class people. And Pablo and Pedro don't like black people, and definitely don't want to pay any reparations.

If you want to know how we wound up where we are, I suggest you look here, he lays it out how we went from 90% white and 10% black in the sixties, to what the USA is now:

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-immigration.html

[Siobhan]

Some news guy said: they don't have be deported but they should go to the back of line. The line of immigrants trying to come to the US the right way...filling out the paperwork, learning English, years of waiting. Why should these people get preferential treatment because they overstayed their visas, crossed over/under a fence, etc., to get here?

[Bol]

>$7 billion sounds like a lot, until you divide it by the 300 million people in the USA, to get a number of around $22/person.

Not to split hairs here, but what difference does $22 make in a country where the minimum wage hasn't increased since 1997, and yet a gallon of gas is more than 4x what is was then?

$22?

[E Money]

R.I.P. Byron Crawford.com (2003-2006)This site used to be so funny, now it is nothing but a political blog with links to crappy XXL.com articles!

[sleepnotwork]

Honestly, I think protectionism needs to be a priority for all Americans. This includes both the limitation of illegal immigration AND the limitation of outsourcing to foreign countries. Both represent a drain on the vitality of the American economy, methods by which the super-rich loot the accumulated productive capacity of the U.S. We are at the end of American economic security right now, and these practices only make things worse.

And to those who defend illegal immigration as a salvation for the third world: while illegal immigration may benefit Mexico in the short run, here's another way to think about it. All of the most ambitious and risk-taking members of the Mexican working class are - you guessed it - coming to America. Here, they may spend time as strawberry pickers or line workers, but many of them eventually become entrepreneurs and start businesses or other hustles. Now, wouldn't Mexico like to have some of that energy within its borders? Especially since these immigrants' children will grow up American, with little more than a sentimental attachment to Mexico? They're sure as hell not sending checks to their third cousin twice removed.

Illegal immigration is brain drain for Mexico, and it hurts the American working class. Amnesty is a terrible idea.

[CrakaBakBlak]

Paying a migrant worker $3 to pick lettuce as opposed to paying an american worker $8 to pick it will make the price of lettuce go up. The five dollars has to be made up somewhere and with most things in this country they will make it up in the "hoods, trailer parks, etc." like they do everything else. Also, at this point in the "society of convience" (remote controls, supermarket deliveries to homes, fast food delivery, door to door auto detailing, door to door laundry service/dry cleaner service, car services) there is no way in hell that Americans are ready to take back our country. For those of us who are upper middle class or wealthy, we can't possibly believe that we're in a position to suddenly do the jobs that no one wants. We're not mentally equipped because we're raised with a sense of elitism in this country and those jobs, I believe, most people will feel that that they are beneath them. I know the only way I would bust my ass doing manual labor is if my life depended on it, short of that, no way. I also realized immediatlely how much we do depend on them. This morning going to work I wanted to wash the X5, I went to the car wash and one car was ahead of me. It took the owner and his son damn near 20 minutes to scrub it down and vacuum it before they sent it through the wash. My turn, I told him I want the premium wash and he tells me no because he's short handed today which means no armor all or dash board wipe down but basic exterior and vacuum. I know I'm not going to do it so who is? That's just my superficial shallow experience, I can only guess how everyone else is affected.

[sleepnotwork]

CrakaBak, I feel you. I'm a fuggin graduate student, I don't do shit all day but read books. I'm trying to do my part by living in cooperative housing (i.e. fuck a landlord), but ultimately I depend on other people to take care of me. I feel somewhat justified since my career is ultimately going to be dedicated to getting people thinking about this sort of thing . . . but still.

I do have some (white) friends who do manual labor and live transient lifestyles. I think it's a growing thing, by economic necessity as much as by political intent. If you're going to be working a truly shitty job, which most people in their twenties (even educated people) will be within a decade anyway, it might as well be out in the sun, you know.

[Matt]

I'm 20 and live in San Diego, CA and work with probably 50 illegals in an upscale "athletic club" and some of these people who don't pay taxes and contribute nothing to my (or what could be their) social security that is going to be shit when I turn 65 and retire make more money then me. It's bullshit, not that they make more money then me, everyone has their right to earn a living and hard work should = good rewards and I also don't think we should kick them out, but they do need to get registered. It's not that big of a deal. I mean, almost any other country in the world you need to be a citizen of to live and work there, right? Why should they have special benifets? Because we "stole" their land? It's not our fault now that our forefathers were "bidness" men and Mexico got hustled. Maybe if they took the time to help improve their communities in Mexico instead of run away shit would be better in their homeland that they are so proud of, but wouldn't even think about living in. It would be better for the U.S. if they did that anyway. If you want to stay in America become a citizen, bottom line. Pay Taxes, get drivers licenses and become a part of society. Maybe we should draft them all for like initation or something so we can end the war in Iraq and lower these gas prices. Just pray that we don't go into Iran as well cause it's just gonna get worse. Whatever I'm rambling now, but hey go get a green card and it'll be all good.

[CrakaBakBlak]

>I'm 20 and live in San Diego, CA and work with probably 50 illegals in an upscale "athletic club" and some of these people who don't pay taxes and contribute nothing to my (or what could be their) social security that is going to be shit when I turn 65 and retire make more money then me.

News Flash Matt, I'm 30 from NY and there won't be any social security left for either us by retirement age, which for me is 55, being an Air Traffic Controller. If thats your only/main argument America is already shitting on you for that one, immigration or not. Also in my last post, the part about society of convience, most of the people who do these jobs, if not all, or immigrants of some sort. (Latin)

[HoneyB_Fly]

i'd like to add my 2 centavos by saying that i do think something needs to be done about the illegal imigration in this country, but at the same time i'm not gonna sit here and be RACIST & say that Mexican's stink or whatever, that's just plain ignorant (bol) A lot worse can be said about your people.. but i won't go there. Anyway i read somewhere where someone said this ...

“You should send all of the 13 million aliens home, then you take all of the welfare recipients who are taking a free check and make them do those jobs" not a bad idea..

or even better.. "Maybe we should draft them all for like initation or something so we can end the war in Iraq and lower these gas prices"

Now THAT sounds like a plan, i bet they wouldnt be so eager to get their asses over here

[booksbrown]

SLEEPNOTWORK,
Interesting point about brain drain but I'm unclear how you would even begin to meausure this? It seems more likely to me the net benefit of increased resources (via a working family member in El Norte) is greater than said benefit of staying put and adding to local unemployment pool. Economic protectionist policies resist our natural impulse to maximize benefits while minimizing costs. Protectionist policies are short term solutions that build both literal and metaphorical BARBED WIRED FENCES between NATIONS. Fortunately, for those of us who dont identify by NATIONALITY, the fruti of CULTURAL exchange cant be confined, counted or deported.

Outdated laws hold little moral grip. While ostensibly BAD, breaking outdated immigration law strikes me as no more pernicious than exceeding the speed limit on the way to the hospital.

[roc_representa]

Bol, I think it's time for a new topic. In fact, it's definitely time for a new topic. This topic is a bit too gay for this site (no homo) but what is your status on same sex marriage? (no homo).

P.S. What's with the lack of a new poll?

[CrakaBakBlak]

>Bol, I think it's time for a new topic. In fact, it's definitely time for a new topic. This topic is a bit too gay for this site (no homo) but what is your status on same sex marriage? (no homo)

Seems to be over his head. Why send illegal immigrants back now? For all of that nonsense lets get rid of the first illegal immigrants, whitey, then the next Darkie. We can leave it to the Redman and their casinos. America is a big melting pot of hypocrisy.

[dParker2.0]

"Illegal immigration is brain drain for Mexico, and it hurts the American working class. Amnesty is a terrible idea."

Most of the illegal Mexicans and other Latin Americans are uneducated, and a large number of them are illiterate (in Spanish).

[Bol]

>Protectionist policies are short term solutions that build both literal and metaphorical BARBED WIRED FENCES between NATIONS.

You know what they say about good fences.

>Most of the illegal Mexicans and other Latin Americans are uneducated, and a large number of them are illiterate (in Spanish).

It's all relative, bro.

[P-Matik]

Dr. Barashango reads this blog??? Wow....

[WhatsMyMotherFuckingName]

I was in downtown Chi Town today and... It was Fuckin Nutty. Upwards of a HALF A MILLION people marching for this immigration shit! The whole monstrosity started 10am and cleared out around 5 o clock. Leaving behind trash all over the city streets and a nasty stench.

[WhatsMyMotherFuckingName]

^
And I'm not necessarily blaming it on Mexicans because an immigrant is anyone from a foreign country, including all of our ancestors. However, the march was about 98% spanish.

[Combat Jack]

Man this site is officially teh ghey!!!

[Verde Grande]

I've given some serious thought to this issue, and I've always assumed that Blacks and Hispanics overall got along. But now I'm starting to see the riff.
After all, the slaves came here legally, didn't they? That's the honest and way to come into this country, goddammit! Who are these beaners, thinking that they can swim through rivers and travel through underground railroads to get here when we came here the legal way! We're true Americans. Did Kunte Kente have to jump over a fence to get here? No, he was welcome by Whitey with open arms. In fact, Whitey was so generous that he provided full transportation via ferry to get him here.

(400 years later, after slavery and segregation have been abolished, aryans and jigs mingle together on the internet, sharing hatefully racist "Border Patrol" games, cracking the best beaner jokes, and dehumanizing them like two burgeois capitalist pigs frolicking in a pool of mud. Ahhhh, the dream of an intergrated America has been fulfilled!!)

Check yourself Bol, because this site is of the mindset of an Uncle Tom.

[SUPANICEMC]

YO Yo yo Byron you get a chance to listen to Da Backwudz album yet? interested to find out what you think about it. I think its the best thing to come out of the dirty south in a while...alot better than King, Thug Motivation 101, (anything else around the dirty dirty)...has kind of an Outkast ATLiens/ Aquemini type feel to it

Peace nigga, as long as they learn english they can stay

[Supanicely Done]

^^^ not to mention it takes alot of insite to make a beat with a fucking willy wonka sample

(all these beaners in my country..."I don't like the look of it")

[EMoney]

Ive finally figured it out! Bol is not behind these recent lame postings! It is some looney white guy that has kidnapped Bol and has tied him and is currently sticking dildos up his butt!!!

[scott]

Byron Crawford, mindset of a chump. I love how this site is actually the blog of an insecure black guy who spews racist crap against other races operating under the front of a rap blog.

[jcnkr]

Wow white people did a lot of messed things to people

1.Took the Indian land (and they call mexicans immirgrants when they are too)
2.Inslaved black people
3.Put Jappanees people in camps or somthing like that
4.Bombed a country for the 911 attack even thoe they nothing to do with it
5.Started a war for oil
6.And now this

(not in any order)

[man in white sheet]

"a meat-packing job paid $19 an hour in 1980, but today that same job pays closer to $9 an hour, according to the Labor Department. That's entirely consistent with what we've been reporting -- that illegal aliens depress wages for U.S. workers by as much as $200 billion a year in addition to placing a tremendous burden on hospitals, schools and other social services."

[voiceofreason]

You are such a house nigger. You wouldn' last one day in the hood.

[micguevara]

Anti-immagration is a clear "right wing" stance,that can not be argued. Now Bol might be right that illegal immagrints in the work force take money from americas poor and lace the pockets of the rich,but the immagrints simply do not do jobs related to most of americas working poor.

[micguevara]

"Illegal immigration, as it exists in America today, only serves to shift money from the pockets of poor Americans and into the pockets of the already uber wealthy elite."

Yeah screw the rich,and the people owning the lettus farm and the meat packing plant. But please whatever you do dont spray paint on the wall of that meat packing plant

"But my thought as far as that’s concerned is that if you want to destroy someone’s property, destroy your own fucking property"
Because why destory some richs mans property who is makeing his money from slave labour and selling his product over priced to americas poor.

Its very very clear to see byron crawfords anti immagration rants are for publicity,and it is working. Lacking any substance and anything origanol to sya on the subject he recyles his garbage over and over again,not being to left not being too right.sticking up for the "jiggs" ass he calls them.blasting cynthia Mckinney for her actiuons but backing her politics.dissing T.i's everything,but quoteing him on immagration as if he is some college professor.END THIS SITE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! byron crawford you are a herb

[WhatsMyMotherFuckingName]

THE BEST THING TO COME OUT OF THE DIRTY SOUTH IN A WHILE = DIRT

[jimmy]

to bol:
yup.
to the idiot that claims anti-immigration as being right wing:
immigration, facilitated by RIGHT WING legislation such as the NAFTA agreement, is, um a RIGHT WING concept. the fact that the republicans don't support it doesn't mean it's not right wing... it's just that we happen to be in a time where the republicans need to garner support at any cost. add it up. read a little. they're assholes and opportunists, but in this case their right.

[Bol is an Uncle Tom]

I tell you what MC Gorilla since you care about the Mexicans so much why don't you make a trade with them. Let them come here and you take your 500 pd, 20 sandwich eating, uglier than Whoopi Golberg's pussy to Mexico. You see it would solve all of their problems. If they slaughtered your fat obese stankin ass you would feed future generations of Mexicans.
At least here in the US they would actually WORK. They wouldn't spend time in their parents basement jacking off to future Prozac popping white bitches on the Real World or pretending to be gully living in white bread puke suburbia. Do us all a favor and asphixiate on George Bush's dick. Don't worry I'll comfort your wife Condoleeza Rice. I will slide my mandigo dick between the gap in her teeth and she will forget all about you. I'm sure the Republicans will throw a party fitting for a coon ass Chicken George, minstrel show ass house nigger such as yourself. You will be in that deluxe Plantation in the sky. Mark ass bitch faggot ass nigger! Stay up Mexicans and fuck this trick. Fee Fi Fo Figger I hate sellout niggers.

[Christopher King]

I guess I concur and dissent in equal part. I just don't want people saying it's an economic issue when really there's plenty to go 'round.

Check this out:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/05/may-day-immigration-imf-and-naacp.html

[Big V]

Not that I don't agree with many of your points on the overall welfare of the American citizen, but there are some overall economic benefits to the general public as well. Mainly, the immigrant workforce, no matter whether rooted in small business or even agriculture, at the core spreads up to larger corporations and the general economic drivers of the country, inlcuding inflation. This in turn, when viewed in the aggregate, boosts corporate value, in turn boosting share prices and earnings per share, which run so broad a gamut of distribution, that you'd have a ton of trouble not relating it to the average quality of life for Americans as a whole.

[Craig]

We Americans must be stupid, dumb, or just plain blind! I mean how do you let 12 million people tip into your country then cry "How The Fuck Did They Get In Here"???? I think the aliens should be registered and tracked. If they do anything above a minor crime, ban them from the U.S. for life! Also, we need to enforce our laws. All of these laws are bullshit if we don't have the manpower or resources to enforce them. Mexicans are basically good people. Just like all other situations, a few assholes Fuck things up for the masses...

[ray earl]

i have to ask every fat ole white man, who do you like waiting on you in a restaurant, a wetback or a nigga or wigga? i'll take a wetback anyday.

the niggas always had a shit attitute about any job and now whites think like that too, so who needs them? why do i need to show "respect" to some fucktard wigga or nigga working at mcdonalds? these wetbacks wait on me and don't give me any flak. they are coming here because they are wanted here and aren't screwed up like the niggas and wiggas are. not now at least.

i can feel comfortable around wetbacks but not whites who act black, they are worse than niggas.
wiggas are getting fucked by this too but i say who cares? they deserve it for acting black. they can now go out and sell that ass on the street like nigga women did before welfare.they must sell that wigga ass to fat ole rednecks since the wetbacks got the jobs now. they better act right if they expect me to buy a piece of their wigga ass when they are out there unemployed selling ass on the street.

wetback workers = sexual liberation for fat rednecks with a few dollars to spend on ass.

[dennis quinn]

get rid of all illegal immigrants, regardless of where they came from.
i say send those 10 million mexicans back across the border. they are nothing but line jumpers screwing their fellow countrymen.
ship 10 million back and let them get on line, let the first 10 million on the legal wait list in.

i hear the argument, 'they take jobs no one else wants'. well make the legal and you'll see how long they stay in the jobs 'no body else wants'. why wait on tables as a busboy when i can be a teamster truck driver?

when the demonstrate, use the army to round them up enmasse and hold them in detention on a military base till transpoetation can be arranged to the border.

dennis quinn

dennis quinn

[micguevara]

yes use the army to round them up.as if they are already not strecthed to thin.i say let them stay,tak the american more and get them all legalized.

[Supa Man]

>>THE BEST THING TO COME OUT OF THE DIRTY SOUTH IN A WHILE = DIRT

no

the best thing to come out of your moms pussy ever = dirt

[Bestpost]

400 years later, after slavery and segregation have been abolished, aryans and jigs mingle together on the internet, sharing hatefully racist "Border Patrol" games, cracking the best beaner jokes, and dehumanizing them like two burgeois capitalist pigs frolicking in a pool of mud. Ahhhh, the dream of an intergrated America has been fulfilled!!

[M]

"I think I just broke down, in actual dollars and cents, how illegal immigration only benefits the elite. Just like all sweatshops."

Almost. It also benefits the immigrants themselves. Duuuuhhhhhhh. Fact is, for most hispanic folks south of the border, the payoff from regular "immigrant" work is likely to be the best money they'll ever make. So while it may not seem like much to you, it's a good deal more than most of them have ever made or will ever make, and guess what? They're down to work those jobs and make that money - jobs and money that 99.99% of Americans want nothing to do with.

America, by definition, is the land of opportunity for immigrants coming to make a life for themselves, and that's what these people are trying to do. People like to blab on about how they should do it legally. But why is it so much harder for central and south americans to "legally" immigrate stateside than it is for people of other nationalities? I'm betting it's because most white folks think like you do (or do you think like most white folks?) vis a vis the "they stink" sentiment. Alas, these folks don't have the time to sit around and figure out why most Americans are so racist towards them. They're too busy trying to get their asses over here to make that $3 an hour. And I ain't mad at em.

[realamerican]

what gives a group coming from one country the right to invade our country and DEMAND instant citizenship? so what if these people do the jobs that others won't? there are millions of others from countries that don't have the luxury of being south of the border that would jump at the chance to do those jobs, but they have to wait in line. you idiots are saying that it is racist to ask people to go through due process like others have had to? btw, to the angry mexican that keeps posting: the reason why you people are killing yourselves to sneak into our country is because it is the richest country in the world, and the reason why it is the richest country in the world is because it was built for free on the backs of BLACK PEOPLE. Please show some respect, and wait in that line.

[jeff]

illegal is illegal is illegal the fact is that immgarts dont make and put more money in to the economy then they take they dry up the food stamps and ssi exc. exc. that real tax paying citzens pay for I Work my ass off i make 3000 a month and after taxes i make $2200 i pay 800 a month in taxs and i buy stuff from stores and pay taxes that way also so if illegal imgrants only buy crap at stores that doesnt count they dont take the jobs we young people dont want they take the jobs we can get i am lucky that i knew my boss from childhood or i would have been stuck with crapy jobs and high rent like i was 3 months ago. illgal imgration made it hard for me to get a good job i got deined for food stamps even though i only made 700 a month and paid 500 a month for rent plus car insurense my wife couldnt get a medical card even though she was pregnat FUCK THESE ILLGAL IMMGRANTS i paid taxs not these immgrants FUCK MY GOVERMENT FUCK THIS SHIT

MY CHILD DIED AT BIRTH CUZ NO MEDICAL FOR MY WIFE
I HATE MY GOVERENMET AND THESE ILLGAL IMMGRANTS MY LIFE WAS HELL I COULDNT SPEACK SPANISH SO I GOT FUCKED EVEN MORE THATS NOT RIGHT THAT SOME CAN GET A JOB WITH OUT SPECKING EGLISH BUT I COULDNT GET A JOB CUZ I CANT SPEAK SPANISH DONT TELL ME TO GO LEARN IT I WORK 60 HOURS A WEEK FUCK THEM MY BABY DIED EVEN THOUGH I PAID TAXES WHERE WAS MY MEDICAL FOR MY WIFE FUCK THE GOVERMENT I HATE IT FUCK IT BITCHES

[Neryzza]

i think illegal aliens should be kept out

[the hispanic mechanic]

"dont trust the spics they stick meat sticks in childrens asses and lil lil girls tootsie holes"
^now that shit is retarded. It says a lot about our inbred culture yeah 13 yr olds are finally doing their duty to their country.

[tooho]

making the law the basis for your argument is bullshit. Slavery was the law once too, ho.

[Barbarian at the gate]

Tall fences make for good neighbors.

[kyle]

your a fag this is america not mexico they dont belong here end of story. why should all hardworking americans have to pay for some illegals that one day feel that there gonna cross the border and produce baby after baby and send thos kids to school guess whos paying for it its not gonna be some broke ass mexicano thats right my friends its gonna be us we need to stop them, And the issue with the fence i see alot of people are agianst well i think we should make it 2 times as tall and 2 times in length yea were paying for it cause some bastard mexicans dont like it in there COUNTRY!!!! but in the long run were going to save alot of money.

[Gotdamned Indians]

Doesn't anyone see it? It's just xenophobia, but thats natural. Naw, the point is, don't you see these immigrants (are hispanic/spanish speaking) indians? (the feather ones) It's like 1645 again, simply, White people hate indians, and sub consciously White people can see the "Gotdamned Indians" taking back the world.

[sanchez]

^^^ Thats right. I'm going to have to start collecting scalps. Or better yet, I could keep mowing this lawn...yeah I think I'll just keep mowing this lawn...

[Juan Sucio]

Fuck those wetbacks send their ass home. You dont have to seperate the families send them all back. It would be nice to be able to go to walmart without having to listen to screaming little bastards, and smell tacos.

[Joseph]

If if have to follow the rules (laws) then illegals should to. Realamerican makes a valid point point a few comments up. Where the hell is medical care for our tax paying citizens who can't afford private insurance? There is none. Could it possibly be because America is too busy spending trillions of dollars supporting illegals and fighting wars in other countries? I say hell yes it could be. I have not had health insurance for years now. I see no candidate in the upcoming presidential election to vote for that would make a difference on these issues. This is ridiculous. America.. land of immigrants living free.. home of the brave who fight for a cheaper barrel of oil... disgusted...

[Rob Adcox]

Why hasn't anyone here mentioned the following problems with this illegal invasion: MS13 and the Mexican Mafia, hepatitis, tuberculosis, tons of drugs coming across the border monthly, and people being murdered along the border? Some of you are playing the race card, which is stupid of you. Others are blaming those of us who understand that a nation is defined first by its borders; those of you who do this are too stupid to understand that we're a nation of LAWS.

I'll go make some more Ramen Pride noodles while you're thinking that over...