Hip-hop against illegal immigration

This morning, while searching for ways to further ingratiate myself with the southern rap community, I think I may have stumbled upon an actual purpose for hip-hop activists. As I state in today's column at XXL, if hip-hop activists want to be taken seriously, they should make illegal immigration their signature issue.

Checkit:

• Rap against fence jumpers

Where as previous efforts at this sort of thing have focused on swinging the vote for the Democratic party, which isn't going to help anyone, this movement has real potential to have a positive effect in the black community.

I imagine there will be some resistance from the hispanic community, who will attempt to cry racism, but I wonder who are the real racists. When illegal immigrants drive down wages, it effects not just black people, but also hispanic American citizens. But they may be willing to tolerate this in order to build an hispanic majority, for political purposes.

In that sense, an hispanic crying racism is hardly different from the ADL attempting to paint anyone and everyone an anti-semite. Just like their claim to ownership of America's Southwest, their cries of racism have no validity and should no longer be considered or otherwise acknowledged.

I didn't mention this in the column, but the fight to ban reggaeton could also easily be folded into this campaign. A reggaeton station has already surpassed New York's Hot 97 in the ratings. In other markets, it's already driven rock music from the airwaves. Rock music. More so than anything else (except D4L), reggaeton could be the death of hip-hop.

Comments

[Big Jay]

first, bitches!

[dameSTATUS]

Daddy Yankee lookin for you Bol.

Rompe! Rompe! ROMPE!

[critic bully]

all you bolbackers follow a fatboy who can't get pussy in real life, remember that. another day in the life of ethered by bun b bol.

[1st down]

How exactly have the illegals impacted the hip-hop community? With respect to education, inner city schools are already underfunded and overpopulated without even factoring in the illegals. Sure they make the situation worse but I don't think that ridiculously high drop out rate for black high school males would go down all that much if all the illegals suddenly left.

And as for the jobs argument, you have to actually want the jobs before you consider them to be "stolen". I know the "they do jobs others won't do" argument is cliche, but that shit is true. Sure the illegals drive down the cost of labor, but I just couldn't picture too many blacks, especially ones in the hip hop community, lining up to pick lettuce and do yardwork and be housekeepers and shit like that, even if it did pay slightly higher wages.

[badmove]

Agreed. Anyone who cries racism at illegal immigration opponents is being unreasonable. BUT IF YOU CALL MEXICANS FILTHY THAN YOU'VE GOT TO EXPECT IT. I am hispanic and I am AGAINST illegal immigration. You can be as sarcastic as you like, whining about how people unreasonably accuse you of racism and making snarky sarcastic remarks, but in reality I think you are a racist. You're a racist in the same way as that guy you knew in college who said, "I like you Byron, you're not like the other black people I know." The guy who thinks he's not racist but just doesn't get it.

[how long will your crackhead rants sustain?]

Who the fuck are you to sit behind you safe little cubicle and criticize who we are and what we do? For more than 20 years. Southern Artists and fans have faithfully supported any and all hip hop that was offered. We accepetced everyone on their own merits, gave evryone a fair listen, and then spoke. In light of you comments and views, it occured to me that you haven’t given near as much open mindedness to our music as we have to yours. The reasons I say yours is that it doensn’t what type of music came out, we supported it, so we in no doubt supported whatever the fuck you listen to. To think that all we know is what we do, or that we may know nothing at all is preposterous. If you’re a paying member of Soundscan, you can see that ALL MUSIC SELLS IN THE SOUTH! 5 percenter? Bought it. Backpackers? Bought it. Black power, Wu-Tang, horrorcore, need I say more? Meanwhile, after 25 years of unconditionally holdin down all forms of rap/hiphop music, as soon as we even try to join a club we bought and help build the clubhouse for, they wanna deny us access. Well guess what you Elks lodge habitatin, Masters in Augusta wanna-be, finger-pointin behind the bushes, throwin a rock and runnin ass nigga, I just thought I’d tell you to take whatever preconcieved notions you have built up in your air and watertight cranium AND STICK IT IN YO PUSSY! I guarentee you the TRUE FANS AND MAKERS OF HIP HOP JUST MIGHT DIFFER WITH YOU! I know this because I am friends with Cool Herc, Grandmaster Caz, Melle Mel, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and other extremely well known originators and creators of this artform. The problem now is the act of causing division and dissention amongst the fans by people whom are not in the know. You see, YOU may not like Laffy Taffy or DFB or whoever, and you know what, that’s your GOD-given right. Hate all you want on the South, Southern rappers, or just Pimp C, since you brought him up. IT STILL WONT HELP WHOEVER YOU LIKE SELL SHIT! Talib Kweli: close friend of UGK. De La Soul: close friends of UGK. Kanye West, Common, Dead Prez, close firends of UGK. Jam Master Jay, 2 Pac, Biggie Smalls: ALL FUCKING FANS OF UGK, and I dont say this from second hand conversation. These people told me this from their own mouths, yet you would have people believe otherwise. They could learn to be openminded about the music the listened and the regions the music was popular in, so it should come at no surprise these people went further thatn the average artists. Whatever alterior motive you may have is trying to bring down the Southern rise, it won’t work. God kills hate with love. Oh yeah, by the way, as far as your comments on my brother and his reason for incarceration, he pulled a gun on a group of people thrreatening him in a mall. Only the girl went back and told the police, that’s why it seems as if it was between only him and the girl. The problem is, misinformed people give misinformation and cause misfortune to the learing. I hate to call this the blind leading the blind, because by the look of your commment posts, they know what’s up. So instead of just going to New York, screaming and ranting in White Nigga’s office, I came to see you on your turf, because I’m no coward. I’m willing to come in your yard: care to come in mine? Right a rhyme, let;s see what you have the hip-hop community musically. Oh and make sure it’s Grammy-nominated when you do it, because mine was. And while you’re at it ask Nas, Jay-Z, Papoose, Camron,, Russell Simmons, 50 Cent, Fat Joe, Chino XL, Self Scientific, Cyrpess ill, Snoop Dogg, Ludacris or anybody else in this industry you like if Pimp C is wack. I bet they bark on you louder than I want to. God forbid you’re in the wrong place and the wrong time like Pimp and have to spend 4 years of your life behind bars. You’re a black man, so fuck how educated and well read you are. You’ll ride just like Pimp, and you’ll be sorry about it, just like Pimp. The only difference: nobody’s gonna wear a fuckin t-shirt with yo face on it. Leave the South alone, becausse we’re just tryin to eat. Quit bloggin and write a book if you got more goin on besides gossip and shootin slugs. Because after blogging has come and gone, and XXL is no longer on stands or online(which I would hate to see), UGK and our musical legacy will survive. Will your triflin rants sustain?

[Jimi]

*Sets Jimi Hendrixx's version of the Star Spangled Banner as cell ringtone*

I can dig it baby! (nullus)

[Bol]

>Sure they make the situation worse but I don't think that ridiculously high drop out rate for black high school males would go down all that much if all the illegals suddenly left.

What about the kids who don't drop out? How are they going to learn shit if everyone's speaking Spanish?

Have you seen the epic gang fights between black and hispanic kids at high schools in LA?

>And as for the jobs argument, you have to actually want the jobs before you consider them to be "stolen".

Have you seen the amount of people who show up at new Wal-Marts to work for $8 an hour?

[T Man]

Aaaaay, this dude needs an education. Stop eating cheetos all day in front of your computer and get a real job. You know, doing real work? Maybe then you would respect people who labor. If it weren't for cheap labor handling all aspects of infrastructure, manually feeding your ass and making your products, you wouldn't be able to make money sitting at home writing little 'pieces' about your cute little thoughts. You'd be in a factory somewhere or at least getting taxed. Do you even pay taxes for your blog? You don't even have a real job to be talking about the workforce in general, homie.

And I'm part of an activist group we do real work in the community instead of talking about bullshit, FOOL.

[dameSTATUS]

y'all better watch the fuck out for Daddy Yankee!!!!

na na na na na na na na na na na: Rompe, Rompe, ROMPE!!!

[doo doo man]

I'm proposing a new deathmatch: Digable Planets 'Blowout Comb' vs A Tribe Called Quest 'Low End Theory'. Any takers?

[dameSTATUS]

cheetos, laptop, chancletas/sandals, fat, old cpu, parents house, ethered, bun b, midwest, no pussy gettin',hatin'...

Those are some refrigerator magnets for all you homebodys that are running out of ways to insult the great writer that is Bol (nullus).

Just thought I'd make it easy on you fuckTardz.

[dameSTATUS]

deathmatch: That one Boogie Monsters album against that one Gravediggaz album.

[doo doo man]

Or Gravediggaz vs Psychoanalysis

[ROX ONE]

Reggaeton clearly has a negative effect on the IQ.

[1st Down]

> What about the kids who don't drop out? How are they going to learn shit if everyone's speaking Spanish?

True, the language issue would probably fuck with the quality of education that much more, but if its already fucked up to begin with, I don't see it having that much of an impact. Although I don't know for sure I'm assuming the drop out rates for places with fewer illegals like dc or detroit are just as low. I mean its not like the kids in these broke ass overcrowded schools are getting that much of a return on their investment when the curriculum is in all english anyway.

> Have you seen the amount of people who show up at new Wal-Marts to work for $8 an hour?

Doing work for $8 an hour at Walmart is a lot different from the kind of construction, landscaping, housekeeping and lettuce picking type shit that the bulk of illegals do

[Bol]

>True, the language issue would probably fuck with the quality of education that much more, but if its already fucked up to begin with, I don't see it having that much of an impact.

So blacks kids and Mexican kids rumbling as if they were prison gangs constitutes not much of an impact?

>Doing work for $8 an hour at Walmart is a lot different from the kind of construction, landscaping, housekeeping and lettuce picking type shit that the bulk of illegals do

American citizens used to do that shit too, for a fair wage.

[Bol]

The main reason you see so many Mexicans marching in the street is because Congress is trying to change the law so that you would have to offer a lettuce picking job or a housekeeping job to an American citizen first.

If the "we do the jobs no one else will do" argument rang true, this wouldn't even be an issue.

[Sparky]

Why don't you ingratiate yourself with the southern rap crowd by reposting that Convicts song that so eloquently captures the nuances of the illegal immigration debate?

[Bol]

^Actually, I'm pretty sure it's posted at Unkut.com

Check Google or something.

[eauhellzgnaw]

"Why don't you ingratiate yourself with the southern rap crowd by reposting that Convicts song that so eloquently captures the nuances of the illegal immigration debate?"

Oh shit, I remember that ignorant shit!

[Lucifer]

Anyone see that south park where they dissed Familly guy? What's up with that!?

South Park Vs Familly Guy....

Bol you should do a poll of the best Cartoon, Familly Guy, Simpsons, South Park...and some other cartoon

[Will]

Low End Theory >>> Anything by Digable Planets.

[BlackimusPrime]

>Low End Theory >>> Anything by Digable Planets.

agreed.

[Xenu]

Wrong fuckers.

Midnight Marauders > Blowout Comb > Low End Theory > Reachin'

[horus]

Bol you should do a poll of the best Cartoon, Familly Guy, Simpsons, South Park...and some other cartoon

Posted by: Lucifer | Apr 7, 2006 11:50:25 AM

WONDER SHOWZEN

[E Money Bags]

Why are you getting so damn political Bol??? What happened to the funny Bol from 2 years ago? Is someone paying you to write these lame ass posts???

[Crackadocious]

Bol getting owned by Bun B---getting owned at SXSW---Getting owned in his own comment section. When will Grimmus O'Reilly learn???

But I see you working Porky Pig. Morton Downey JR and Jerry Springer made mad money by toying with peoples emotions concerning unrelevant issues. But if you feel that its necessary to carry the banner for the republican party than so be it, just remember that they play by mafia rules and you will never be more than a street level captain.

The truth of the matter is that Rethuglicans know that all these poor ass Mexicans will never identify with there beliefs and issues. Coming from a pot of piss makes them likely democrats and we can't have that boss now can we??? But the real issue is that your scared Juan Valdez is gonna take your job away from you, because Walmart does not tolerate fat hip hop bloggers who don't work. Dude change your pic-- You look like a amazon sloth dangling from a berchuio tree.

[Munnie]

Yo b, just make sure you read up man, as far as illegal immigration go, its the mexicans thats fuckin it up, nigga just go head and call them by they name. Its mexicans nigga. Puerto Ricans like me are the niggas that invented reggaeton. We deserve to get shitted on, because we could care less about the southwest, but we trying to take over shit with that ROMPE, GASOLINA shit

[will]

Midnight Marauders >>> Most albums.

I've never heard of Reggaeton before but it sounds awful. Can someone tell me though what the hell this shit the mexicans blare out all over my neighborhood is? It all sounds exactly the same... like the music from those awful bollywood movies.

Actually I shouldn't say my neighborhood, it's definitely theirs. How the hell does an illegal buy a house?

[micguevara]

a nother ignorant comment.......... "The main reason you see so many Mexicans marching in the street is because Congress is trying to change the law so that you would have to offer a lettuce picking job or a housekeeping job to an American citizen first.".It has nothing to do with Offering Jobs to any group first,do you even read any news? you seem to be makeing up your own shit to fit your argument. they were amrching(for nothing now since congress has gone on spring break) so laws would not change. AAmericans can get any "lettus picking job" they apply for,but they would have to work for it.since you do not see unions supporting a movement to kick all illegals out i would say that they are supported by unions which makes your whole rant bullshit.

[Michael]

I remember you from high school Bryan, this is Michael. You've changed. I heard you had a website and I checked it out. So you still live at home with your mom? And you work at Wal-Mart? And you gained weight to about 400 lbs. now? Can you even reach around and wipe your ass? You're the same loser you've always been. No wonder I never talked to you that much. You were never cool enough because you never had a girlfriend. I was gonna visit you at your house, but nah. Prepare to have your house egged, loser.

Hey guys reading this site, don't waste your time coming here and adding comments. Low comment numbers are his weakness. It's funny to read all the pretend friends he has because nobody could ever possibly agree with him. Just look at all the fake friend aliases he types himself...

1st dudes!

2nd brokebackers!

3rd nerds!

How gay. Anybody ever commenting after me is gay.

[anonymous]

this site is dead

[John Smith, Jr.]

Bol needs a retard filter on his comments section...

[Robbie]

The original Convicts post featuring their views on immigration:

http://www.unkut.com/2005/06/classic-ignorance-convicts/

[viva]

Actually I shouldn't say my neighborhood, it's definitely theirs. How the hell does an illegal buy a house?

Posted by: will | Apr 7, 2006 7:22:04 PM

It's tejano they're bumpin', lots of horns and awkward sounding bass beats, yeah its tejano, oh and expect them to be buyin more than a house soon, your time is done, I can personally tell you, being of this new wave of college educated hispanics, we are comin in force, in big numbers, not like the blacks, with us you haven't instilled that self-pity, that self-destructive nature, you haven't programmed us with it, we are free radicals. do you know what a free radical is? This is why there is so much to do about it. So much hooplah, so many shenanigans, we're a threat, we haven't been neutralized. I've got my masters and I'm coming for your job. Viva la revolucion!

[jimmy]

bol,
now that the senate is on its way to making the illegals legal, you're whole premise - of you being against people picking and choosing what laws to follow - is gone...

now what?

[X37]

Bol is my cousin. Not really, but I'll assume so. See, I'm from Africa, where most slaves that came here a couple of centuries ago were taken from. My granddad used to tell us that one of our ancestor was a stud. Big dude, all muscular and shit but he had one HUGE problem: He was 2 lazy. He was "given" to the slave traders. That's why I think we are cousin. You, and 2 many brothers, took to that gene, from this ancestors'side...

Bol, I have more of a right than you to be here. For one, you a lazy fuck who aint doing shit in term of economics for this country. I, as most immigrants do, pay taxes and participate in supporting your sorry ass. I'm a productive member of society, while you...blog and work P/T menial jobs. Why the fuck would I leave this country when you, my dear cousin, aint doing shit and leaving everything to the Asian, Latino and African immigrants to grab?
Most of the world is so fucked up because of the foreign policies and historical terrorism of the US & Europe. Economies all over the world still suffer from actions of the US and Europe from centuries ago to this day. We all have a right to look for a better future for our family, specially when ignorant and useless people like you are here. Specially when useless people like you are here...
We (illegal/undocumented/border crossing US residents) will continue to come here and get whatever the fuck we DESERVE.
I deserve as much as you Bol, the typical lazy nigga, to be in this country. Yeah, I said it: the entire world has the same right as you do to be here and earn a honest living.
The right you have to be here comes from the fact that your ancestors were slaves who came here on a boatp. My right to be here arises from fact that there are opportunities in America that are not available in my country. So, I bought a plane ticket, with a student visa, and I ain't leaving. At least, until I get what I need from this country.
In america, if you work hard enough, you can get whatever you want. In my country? Hell no...
I'm living the American Dream. As an illegal immigrant. And I will help in any way, shape or form other productive member of thw world come here and make a better future for themselves and their family.

What you think don't count nigga. You don't even vote. (Maybe you do, but most nigga are 2 busy selling coke on the corner, dreaming of jackpot days as athletes, or suffer from whatever cultural disease niggaz seem to be affected with). Anyway, I'm here illegally, I make a lot of money, and I will help others achieve the American Dream 2.

On another topic: I 've been a hip-hop fan for a long time, even though in my early days of hip-hop immersion, I could not understand shit. I couldn't understand 2Pac or Biggie until I came here. But you know what? I have more hip-hop culture than you do: I don't have the paradigm that obscur your ability to respect difference.

Dear cousin, keep bitching about illegal immigration. And please do us all a favor: stay the way you are. Don't change. You and all lazy niggaz that are societal leeches provides us the opportunity to live the American Dream. For some, it amounts to getting $20 a day at 2$/hr(still better than the 1$/ day they would get working in their country).

[will]

'I've got my masters and I'm coming for your job. Viva la revolucion!'

You can have my job hermano, I hate the thing. Admittedly I had to look up a free radical...

'In chemistry, Radicals (often referred to as free radicals) are atomic or molecular species with unpaired electrons on an otherwise open shell configuration. These unpaired electrons are usually highly reactive, so radicals are likely to take part in chemical reactions.'

Why would you want to be that? And if you check my posts on this thread you'll know I have no problem with the neighbors buying their houses. I moved here to get out a black neighborhood (described earlier in the thread).

P.S. Yes I am poor and white.

[will]

Hey X37,

If you're competent enough to be a huge windbag on the internets can't you just fill out a damn immigration form?

[micguevara]

Who cares about filling out a immagration form? who needs to? will your question can go for bol too,if he can be a windbag on the internet,why cant he get a real job?i mean c'mon he has no clue about econmic issues going on in the country,and yet still sprews these rants that make little to no sense. His rant was pathetic and sad but what was even worse was his responces. first tlaking about peopel lineing up for job at walmart?whats that got to do with illegals?they CAN NOT work at wal mart.then he says americans sue to do jobs such as lettus picking and housekeeping,which is true and they still do.but it made it seem as if at some time in american history everyone here was leagal and documented.which we all know is not true.

[translated]

By "effects" you probably meant "affects".

Anyway, you're probably right, black people should get pissed off at illegal immigration because the utlimate goal of the poor bastards sneaking through the border is to drive wages down. I see you pin pointed the problem once again.

//But they may be willing to tolerate this in order to build an hispanic majority, for political purposes.//

Socially right wingers and economically left wingers. Not too different to the black community from what I understand (but I'm french so really, I'm just talking out of my arse)

[viva]

Will, this is kinda what I was thinking about. Kind of an analogy for immigrants and the U.S., not a very good one admittedly...

[Free radicals are very unstable and react quickly with other compounds, trying to capture the needed electron to gain stability. Generally, free radicals attack the nearest stable molecule, "stealing" its electron. When the "attacked" molecule loses its electron, it becomes a free radical itself, beginning a chain reaction. Once the process is started, it can cascade, finally resulting in the disruption of a living cell.]

[Czar Arkan]

"Byron Crawford: The Mindset of an Uncle Tom"

What more needs to be said...

[Woo]

Woo this is the worst blog ever!

[X37]

Hey Will,
You think filling up a form is enough to become legal? I've been trying, and I'll keep trying. The only thing that the legalization of my stay will change for me, is that it will provide me with the opportunity to travel. Otherwise, I really don't need to go through the long and tenuous process. I have a SS number and good credit. You would be surprised to find out how many people you work with, know, are friends with, are illegal aliens. It's not only the Mexicans picking in the fields, or the day laborers.

[TheNicker]

I've got an idea for an album deathmatch: how about a backpacker vs. southern underground: how about say Non Phixion v. CunnLynguists.

[BUN B]

HEY BOL I HAVE A QUESTION HOW DID THE USA TAKE OVER TEXAS? OH I KNOW A LOT OF AMERICANS MOVED INTO THE AREA AND REFUSED TO LEARN SPANISH OR PARTICIPATE IN NATIONAL CUSTOMS EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE OBLIGATED TO DO SO BY LAW. THEN ONCE ENOUGH AMERICANS WERE THERE THEY LAUNCHED A REVOLUTION.

TRUE STORY.

[gerber]

I've got an idea for an album deathmatch: how about a backpacker vs. southern underground: how about say Non Phixion v. CunnLynguists.

Posted by: TheNicker | Apr 8, 2006 11:21:17

How about aesop vs, rjd2? The backpackers just had to strap on diapers.

[mac jay]

"all you bolbackers follow a fatboy who can't get pussy in real life, remember that. another day in the life of ethered by bun b bol."

haha, that's shit on point. this muh fucka so weak mayne.

[Mike]

I doubt reaggayton will be the death of a whole genre. For the radio, sure, but no one that matters listens to the radio.

I mean c'mon. RADIO.

[Miss J.]

How can I be entertained at work if you don't post for three days straight.

[fukem]

If the California jails weren't so full of hard-working criminal mexicans, if mexicoc wasn't such a fucked corrupt ass country, and if mexicans weren't living proof that the indians fucked buffaloes-- i wouldn't have a problem with em. but with trix like x37, u gotta have a problem with them racist dogs. fukem.

[Mexican Thunder]

Read it and weep, Bros...

http://www.aztlan.net/la_county_mexican_demographics.htm

After we take care of Gringo for you, you can mow our lawns for a change.

[Jeff Gordon]

ASS SHIT TACO!!!WHITE POWER

[beanerlover69]

i hate niggers mexicans are the original rappers, homos. Eat my bean picking brown ass

[roger]

The only thing you black people do is cry cry cry cry and you stop crying and start smoking more crack like you always do.Fagots