The no homo debate

My bad about bringing up old shit, but, given that this site is somewhat more popular than it was a year ago, it's likely that a lot of people reading this don't really know at all about the history of the no homo movement on the Internets.

According to djxplicit, who did a little investigating, it was about a year ago that the term no homo actually popped up on this site. And even though that's probably not 100% accurate, just because he found it by doing a search of my monthly archives pages, which only contain brief excerpts of posts, it's at least more or less true. The term, of course, came from Cam'ron and his Dipset weed carriers, but I'm pretty sure I picked it up from other hip-hop bloggers. At first, I would just drop it every now and again (no homo), but, as time went on, I couldn't help myself (no homo) and began to use it more frequently and in more seemingly inappopriate situations.

Then, a few weeks later, came the incident that led to some of the all-time great moments in hip-hop blogging. I was minding my own business, sipping the Champagne like I always do, when I ran across this: O-Dub, the George Takei of hip-hop journalism (seriously, try listening to one of his podcasts), had decided that hip-hop bloggers would no longer be allowed to use the term no homo. Reading the actual post again a year after the fact and merely hung over rather than drunk, it sounds even worse and even more bizarre than it did back in the day. Something must have really been stuck in his craw that particular week. No homo?

Sez the chinaman:

I know I'm not the first to say this but it needs repeating until people actually start to listen. Can people please, please, PLEASE stop using this ridiculous "no homo" tag on everything they post these days? I don't know who started it, but really, the shit needs to stop. Yesterday. It's getting to the point where people are throwing up "no homo" after everything, not just puns that sound vaguely "gay" (and seriously, gay is now so mainstream, it's like the new straight) but even simple expressions of affection or admiration between men. For example, it's not at all uncommon to see some DUMB SHIT like this: "I love that new Ghostface album. I'm really into him (no homo)". Seriously, what the hell is that about? Have we become such a homophobic society think that because a man professes a positive opinion about another man's work that it means they want to drop to their knees and start smoking pole?

If you click over to the now-defunct Poop Life site, you can see how the debate continues in the comments section to that post. Yours truly pops up about halfway down page and explains that his little PC laws don't really apply to me. A few days later, my site would magically disappear from Clyde Smith's shitty blogroll, which really kick-started the chain of events which led to this.

Comments

[djxplicit]

> that's probably not 100% accurate

it is until proven otherwise

> The term, of course, came from Cam'ron and his Dipset weed carriers

he didnt originate it, but he did popularize it. and we call them "Dipshit weed carriers." nhjic

[The Artist formerly known as BHTMD]

All I really want to know is, is that 0-Dub hip hop site really run and posted by a 32 year old chinaman? If so thats the craziest thing I've ever heard.

[beserious]

>>>All I really want to know is, is that 0-Dub hip hop site really run and posted by a 32 year old chinaman? If so thats the craziest thing I've ever heard

And who the hell convinced him that that shit was okay.

[Nikki]

Shouldn't we be saying 'no homo' everytime we mention Cam'ron's powder puff pink wearing ass?

[djxplicit]

> Shouldn't we be saying 'no homo' everytime we mention Cam'ron's powder puff pink wearing ass?

great point. nhjic. ive been doing that, no homo, for a bit, but ive kind of gotten out of the habit. nhjic.

[djxplicit]

oh, and if anyone wants to hear what i think about cameron giles, no homo (doubtful), click here:

http://djxplicit.blogspot.com/2005/05/fuck-cameron-giles-no-homo-x2.html

[flyno20]

http://www.byroncrawford.com/2004/04/album_review_12.html

i think that is older nh

[djxplicit]

that doesnt count due to the amount of missed no homo's in the same page.

[Combat Jack]

I think the whole "no homo" thing being over is "no homo".

[beserious]

I think a buncha homos got together and decided to take a stand, so they've been planting their seeds (no homo) of anger to try and end the phrase. And to think it all started with the chinaman.

[bdkfan]

> I think a buncha homos got together and decided to take a stand, so they've been planting their seeds (no homo) of anger to try and end the phrase. And to think it all started with the chinaman.

LOL.

[reese]

I liked Cam (no homo) when he first came out (NO HOMO) like before "Come Home With Me", but I don't know what happened after that. Killa Cam (no homo) turned into a pink-and-baby blue- wearing bitch and I think we should seriously hunt and kill him. The world would be a better place without him.

[Combat Jack]

I'm pretty cool with the intelligence field and I just heard that about a year ago, a group called Secret Cam-lovers Underground Movement (S.C.U.M.) held a secret convention in Guam or some other gay ass fruity country with the intention of conquering the world. nhjic.

[george lucas]

>> The term, of course, came from Cam'ron and his Dipset weed carriers

>he didnt originate it, but he did popularize it.

does anyone know what what these people are talking about? I want to know which member popularized it and in what song. Thanks.

[jrs-one]

Keepin it Gully

http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/jim_steele/feb2002/gully_transport2.jpg

[bdkfan]

gully is a last name.

i think its a white people's last name. but i dont know for sure.

[Rah]

"No Homo" did not come from Cam nor did he popularized it. The term "No Homo" was being said years before Cam started dressing like a homo. I guess some areas (or states) were different but I know most Queens, Brooklyn (such as myself), and Bronx people used the term along time ago.

"No Homo"
1998-2001

Rest in Peace.

(Oh.....I forgot it was brought back up by you people.)

[jessica simpson]

Word!

[djxplicit]

rah: i agree that he didnt invent it, but he did popularize it to the world outside of new york. obviously this shit was being said on new york radio and the like for years, but cam'ron made it national news on the internets.

[beserious]

I saw on VH1 that Cam'ron the Ramrod had a pink Range Rover. I thought it was impossible to fuck one of those up, but he made a way. Ohhhh yes he did.

[145Broadway]

O-DUB "no homo" is a pillow biter.

[lala]

Why are you bringing up old shit? This seems like a ploy to rehash that silly ass shit between the bloggers. People should have sense enough to scroll through the fucking archives if they want to read about this shit. Move on and get over it. That ship has sailed, why do you want to board it again? A debate over no homo?? Who gives a fuck? Whoever the originator is should be embarrassed, because the phrase is overused, misused, and downright dumb. Lala

[beserious]

umm, obviously you give a fuck or you wouldn't have taken the time to read this AND comment. dumbass.

[beserious]

AND sign your name.

[MI Mi]

>>>(and seriously, gay is now so mainstream, it's like the new straight

since when is having ur ass penetrated "mainstream"

[Rah]

X: To be honest...I don't know how it started. I don't think I ever heard it on the radio before....oh well.

[lala]

Did I ask questions about the origins of no homo? No. Do I give a fuck about or inquire who started it? No bitch. That was the whole point. Who gives a shit. What I was addressing is how dumb it is to care. So you can kiss my black ass. And fuck you bitch, you don't know me trick. So watch who the fuck you come sideways at bitch, you ain't the architect of this shit, bitch ass trick.

[lala]

Oh and by the way, I'll sign my motherfucking name on that too bitch. Lala

[beserious]

ha...I didn't know people like you knew how to use the internet, congratulations, share that shit with the tribe.

[lala]

Well bitch, considering you don't know me, I'm sure there are a lot of things I can do that you'll never fucking know. Unfortunately, the art of beating bitches up is one of them. Again, fuck you trick. Unless you are the wife/girlfriend/fuckbuddy of the architect of this shit, you shouldn't have a gotdamn thing to say to me. Now share that with your tribe bitch ass trick. And again, let me sign my name. Lala.

[beserious]

Hmmm, you sound alot like this other psycho ass girl that frequents this site; maybe ya'll are one in the same?

[lala]

How are you gonna call someone psycho when you address people and then act surprised when they come back at you? Naw bitch I am straight up and down Lala. I don't know who you are used to fucking with, but letting a bitch attempt to front me out, is out of the question. How presumptuous it is to assume that motherfuckers are gonna allow you to say shit with no response? Bitch you obviously have me confused with other bitches who must allow you to come at them sideways. You don't know me trick. Lala.

[beserious]

you're fuckin funny, chill out.

[lala]

Well, alas, we have something in common because I think you're fucking funny too. But, be that as it may, to me it is pointless to go back and forth with a bitch with no chance of coming to blows. So on that note, I bid you good morning and I'm out. Lala.

[djxplicit]

> Hmmm, you sound alot like this other psycho ass girl that frequents this site; maybe ya'll are one in the same?

what ive been sayin...

[Rollie Fingers]

http://contender.tv.yahoo.com/01/fanfavorites.html

Vote for Ishe.

Thank you, come again.

[M]

I agree with O. You sound like a 13 year-old closet homo when you keep saying that phrase every twenty words.

[KanyeISyourDad]

grow up

[Cam'ron]

No Homo.

[gyat]

east side killaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
yeah # BLING BLING

[BlackimusPrime]

>These days, men should be flattered if they're confused with being gay since gay men, in our popular media, are smart, funny, well-dressed and charming.

NO HOMO. That was just too much for me I'm sorry.(n/h)

[the truth]

and no homo

[camsux]

camand dipset are all gay fagbags